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    Re: I'm a little intimidated about using my 3401

    "It's as glossy as the day I bought it."

    I'd bet if you pull your truck into a dark garage and take a look with a swirl finder light you would discover the paint is not in as good shape as you think it is. And while it is still glossy you will be amazed at how much better it will look after polishing and adding a good wax or sealant.

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    Re: I'm a little intimidated about using my 3401

    You have been given good advice and links above. I'll admit to being a little intimidated by the Flex 3401 prior to purchasing it and felt some of the same concerns you have. I found Mike Phillips book helpful to understand how to approach and use the machine, I also watched the video by Mike Phillips dlc95 mentioned and it to was helpful. What I found with my first use is there is nothing to be afraid of, yes there is a bit of a learning curve as it handles differently than one of the standard DA's, but easily surmountable. The results I achieved first time out of the gate were very good. In the words of Nike "just do it".
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    Re: I'm a little intimidated about using my 3401

    I came from a PC and thought the very same thing. Nothing to worry about at all. You adjust very quickly to it rotating counter clockwise and it does correct fast. Go with LC Hybrids for pads, they work great for the 3401.

    Have fun and time to break it out of the box, too nice of a machine to sit idle.

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    Re: I'm a little intimidated about using my 3401

    I'd also like to share that I've never burned paint with the 3401, while I have with the PC. Perception can be funny like that. The thing about the 3401 is that it maintains rotation under pressure, where free spindle machines like the PC may encounter pad stall.

    When you get that 3401 on the paint, start out with light pressure, and get a feel for it. Should you encounter any "walking", it's remedied for me by adjusting the height of the tail end.

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    Re: I'm a little intimidated about using my 3401

    How about this idea....


    Don't practice or learn on something that's important to you.

    Practice on something else, like a friends car, relative's car, the girlfriend's or wife's car, etc.

    Cut your teeth on something that's not important to you before taking the Flex 3401 to something that is important to you.



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    Re: I'm a little intimidated about using my 3401

    Quote Originally Posted by BuffaloBill View Post
    It's been cared for but hasn't been waxed/sealed in a year.
    I wouldn't say that it has been cared for if you have no protection on the paint.

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    Re: I'm a little intimidated about using my 3401

    Go to an auto salvage/junk yard
    and pick up some practice panels.


    Bob
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    Re: I'm a little intimidated about using my 3401

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike.Phillips@Autogeek View Post
    How about this idea....


    Don't practice or learn on something that's important to you.

    Practice on something else, like a friends car, relative's car, the girlfriend's or wife's car, etc.

    Cut your teeth on something that's not important to you before taking the Flex 3401 to something that is important to you.


    Not sure practicing on my wife's car is a good idea - one "oops" and she'd quickly become my ex-wife

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    Re: I'm a little intimidated about using my 3401

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    Or placed any protectants on the paint in a year?

    Being in CO, perhaps vehicles there take less a beating (UV) than here in the desert southwest, but get hammered in other ways, like snow, and nasties on the road like sand-salt?

    In any case, time does take it's toll.

    I see many people today that falsely believe because the paint looks shiny (From the Clear Coat) that all is good, and that protectants don't need to be used, or used as much. And seen quite a few vehicles around the same age as yours on the verge of clear coat failure, or already has clear coat degradation, with peeling, oxidized paint turning white.

    It took a good 16 or so years before I took a DA and Polishes to my own Tahoe SUV, but you can trust in those 16 years I applied more waxes, and sealants than the factory paintjob on it probably cost.

    The paint on my SUV was always highly maintained, but I will say the paint looks better today by far than it did 6-8 years ago.

    There's countless tutorial videos out there on the web, both by Mike Phillips, and others.
    One doesn't necessarily have to watch a specific Flex 3401 Vid to learn and understand the basics of detailing, and polishing, but it does certainly help to get to know your specific machine, and to get the best abilities from it.

    Nothing wrong with starting out with fine polishes, and it is often better to do less, than do too much. Learn the process of doing a test spot with 2-3 products on a panel section. See what works best, in both quality of finish, ease of work, and then simply repeat the process over the rest of the vehicle.

    If it is hard for you to get the time to maintain your vehicle with protectants, then do consider durable products to protect. Bang for the buck, hard to beat products from the Collinite line-up.

    Those products largely kept my Tahoe "on ice" so to speak all those years, protecting the finish and integrity of the paint. That the paint on this SUV looks as good as the day I bought it, if not actually better.

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    But the paint is still salvageable, correct?

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    Re: I'm a little intimidated about using my 3401

    Your over thinking you have quality products and a quality machine. So i am more then sure you watched videos and lurked around.

    Your using such a non aggressive pad and polish combo the only way you would damage your paint is with the polisher.

    Do not start with 3800 it has less cut. You dont have to do a test spot because your not compounding just polishing.

    Wash with dish soap clay, slap your white pad on put 5 dots of 3500 work it in your section bump to speed 4-5 if your uncomfortable use speed 4.

    Stay away from body lines and mirrors as the flex can hit them and damage them.

    Do a open panel get the hang of it and youll get it.

    Your just going to be cutting very little as the polish is not as abrasive as a compound.

    It is called "super finish" for finishing the only thing your going to be hurting is some light defects.

    Dont over think it. I wouldnt trust you trying to remove every defect and a full correction.

    Your just polishing no bigey

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