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    Re: Anyone have experience with the new corded XCE compared to the 3401?

    great tool, i consider this to be my next investment, i am acrobating between this and a flex rotary

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    Re: Anyone have experience with the new corded XCE compared to the 3401?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reno View Post
    great tool, i consider this to be my next investment, i am acrobating between this and a flex rotary

    Get the Supa BEAST.


    I consider myself and expert with a rotary polisher and I rarely use it compared to the BEAST or the Supa BEAST.


    The rotary is the way to go when you have MAJOR correction work to do on really hard paint or if you're going to wetsand an entire car and then have to remove 100% of the sanding marks. But for the majority of paint correction you're ever going to do the Supa BEAST is MORE than enough.

    And I know I've shared this with you in the past few days or weeks, but to hit this topic again - factory clearcoats are THIN. If 8 to 12 SOLID section passes with a quality compound and cutting pad doesn't remove the defects using either the BEAST or the Supa BEAST - then you probably ought to leave them be - NOT get more aggressive with a rotary and chase them until they are gone.

    All you have to do is buff through the clearcoat on someone else's car ONE TIME and it will all sink in.



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    Re: Anyone have experience with the new corded XCE compared to the 3401?

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    And I know I've shared this with you in the past few days or weeks, but to hit this topic again - factory clearcoats are THIN. If 8 to 12 SOLID section passes with a quality compound and cutting pad doesn't remove the defects using either the BEAST or the Supa BEAST - then you probably ought to leave them be - NOT get more aggressive with a rotary and chase them until they are gone.

    All you have to do is buff through the clearcoat on someone else's car ONE TIME and it will all sink in.



    thanks Mike for your response. thats true, you've already shared this with me and if you say so, with so many years of exp, i will listen to you. either way, this tool is in my head from day one i will give it a try. already owned a rupes nano, a rupes 15mm (no matter what fellow members say, stalling is a problem for me ) and a 75mm polisher. with supa beast the quarteto will be complete

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    Re: Anyone have experience with the new corded XCE compared to the 3401?

    The rupes stalling was never what I would call an “issue” for me cause I was able to work around it and it still does remove imperfections without spinning just a little slower and needs some extra attention but it did detract from the user experience for me. To the point where I found myself using my cheap 21mm Chinese da more than the rupes for a lot of stuff. Then the rupes went down and I never bothered fixing it, just used the Chinese knock off till recently when I got the corded xce. Can’t go back now. Only thing the rupes lrh15 offered over it was it was smoother.

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    Re: Anyone have experience with the new corded XCE compared to the 3401?

    SUPA BEAST is on its way! cant wait to use it! also ordered 6" backing plate.

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    Good luck with it! Flex sure makes some GREAT machines.
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    Re: Anyone have experience with the new corded XCE compared to the 3401?

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    SUPA BEAST is on its way! cant wait to use it! also ordered 6" backing plate.
    You’ll love it. I tried it with a bunch of 6” pads as well and ended up liking the stock backing plate and 5” pads a lot more. So far I’m about 4 corrections in, did a couple sealant applications with it and some spot corrections. Love the force hybrid wool pads from lake country as well as the force pads and rupes pads. Thin pads, at least in 5” aren’t as friendly imo.

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    Re: Anyone have experience with the new corded XCE compared to the 3401?

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    You’ll love it. I tried it with a bunch of 6” pads as well and ended up liking the stock backing plate and 5” pads a lot more.

    So far I’m about 4 corrections in, did a couple sealant applications with it and some spot corrections. Love the force hybrid wool pads from lake country as well as the force pads and rupes pads. Thin pads, at least in 5” aren’t as friendly imo.

    I already have for sale my RUPES Mark III deluxe kit. Dont use it anymore. Its brand new, but it dont suit my style and working needs.

    My rupes nano is perfect for what i do. but no more rupes for me.

    I tried makita force rotation and BOOM!!! Mike Phillips was very very right!


    Cant wait to receive my SUPA BEAST.




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    Re: Anyone have experience with the new corded XCE compared to the 3401?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reno View Post

    Cant wait to receive my SUPA BEAST.

    Smooth, quiet, lightweight and powerful. Zero pad stalling.


    I hope you like it!


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    Re: Anyone have experience with the new corded XCE compared to the 3401?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Phillips View Post
    Smooth, quiet, lightweight and powerful. Zero pad stalling.


    I hope you like it!


    I Will post my thoughts after my first job with the tool

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