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    Re: Advise for flex noob

    Quote Originally Posted by JFire72 View Post
    I was going to start a new thread, and this one is almost what exactly what I would have started, minus the machine part anyway. So I hope it's ok if I piggy back off you here.

    I have not used Lake County pads before, and I just placed an order for 3 of them. My thinking here was this:

    I have light marks on the paint, and reading through the website description of them, I went with an orange pad. I did that for the light marks and have a heavy correcting polish in case the correcting polish and next pad up didn't work on them.

    My next pad is green, and was to correct the light marks, or to go over what I did with the orange pad. I was going to use the correcting polish on this pad.

    My last pad is white, and was for the finishing polish. I am starting to think I should have gotten a black pad for this one.

    My final step after these 3 was to apply my sealant, and I do that by hand using Wolfgang.

    I did this whole process on my Durango this past weekend, and when I was finished, I decided to try out different pads. I am doing my Charger next week at some point, so I have a couple of days to order more pads if necessary.

    Any thoughts?

    Edit:

    I just got the car I'm about to do about 2 months ago, and its brand new, never been touched. I've washed it a few times, but it hasn't been polished or protected yet, hence the minor markings. My idea of light/minor is one that you have to look at up close and in several different angles to find and see it. They aren't ones that you can point out and say to someone, ya I have a mark there.

    Hope this makes sense, and you can see the reasoning behind my choices.

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    Ignore most of this, I just went ahead and got one of everything, it's not like they are very expensive. So I'm good to go for anything that I do now. Advise for flex noob

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    Re: Advise for flex noob

    Just to add to what may be confusing to you.

    The PC may be listed as a 6" random orbital buffer. That dimension, 6", i believe refers to the counterweight that comes standard with the machine. It is the weight equipped to randomly spin 6" pads. Don't let this dissuade you from equipping the machine with a 5' BP and 5.5" pads. They work perfectly fine on the "6 inch" Porter Cable 7424.

    I ONLY use 5.5" Lake Country Thin Pro pads on my 6" older PC and get amazing results. I even occassionally use 3-4" pads for finer work on my machine and they also work. Yes, the machine wants to offset the "throw" like a 6" mass but it isn't a problem.

    If its still available, I believe you can order the 5" counterweight to more accurately match the size pads you're using but I never got one and the 6" weight works fine.
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    Re: Advise for flex noob

    What ever pad you choose, you are going to need more than 1 of. I would say at least 6 if not more.
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    Re: Advise for flex noob

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Phillips View Post
    That should never happen on this forum. When I first came here in 2009 we had a couple of "special people" on this forum that we eventually shoved out the door because they were flat out condescending and rude to forum members, both new members and existing members. Since those days, my personal goal has been to make this a fun, friendly and just as important, helpful forum.

    There are plenty of other forums as well as other social media platforms where you get treated like a second class person but this will not be one of them.


    Thanks for coming back and asking a great question.


    Well haters gonna hate - it's really true. This is a great forum with lots of active members and you acutally get an reply if you post something... LOL Appreciate the hospitality, Mike, I will stick around.

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    Re: Advise for flex noob

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    You want the 5" backing plate so you can turn and churn 5.5" pads.

    Smaller pads fit the body panels better than 6.5" pads. Keep in mind, you're not supposed to buff on edges or raised body lines, thus smaller pads FIT the different shapes of panels on modern cars better than larger pads.

    Smaller, thinner pads rotate better than larger thicker pads (in most cases), so you'll get better correction and polishing action from smaller pads.

    Also - just to note - the NAME --> Griot's Garage 6" Random Orbital Polisher - the 6 means it comes with a 6" backing plate. They could have just as easily included a 5" backing plate and then called it the Griot's Garage 5" Random Orbital Polisher.

    I have sent more than one e-mail to Griot's recommending they change this tool to come with 5" pads and then also change the box graphics and all marketing materials to reflect this change to no avail. Keep in mind, just last weekend I was teaching a class AT Griot's Garage and we used the Griot's Garage 6" Random Orbital Polishers and we put 5" backing plates on all of them except when machine sanding.


    Also, here's an article I wrote about this tool, it is FULL of TONS of INFORMATION and a video that will make learning how to use this tool easy.


    Here's what you need to get into machine polishing - Recommendations for a beginner by Mike Phillips



    Hope that helps....


    Also for what it's worth, I've used all the tools everyone is talking about in this thread and probably more, and when I need to knock a car out fast, (and that's most of the time), I always grab the BEAST. I always say in my classes,

    "The little things are the big things"


    And I find 8mm gear-driven orbital to do more correction faster than 5mm gear drive orbitals. I find 5mm gear-driven to be smoother, but not faster. Again, I've used them all and I'm all about speed with top notch quality.



    like another user wrote...then counterweight.. does not need to be changed for sure if you use replace the "6 BP with a "5 BP... correct? I am not sure I want to mess with those parts of the equipment... I am not really a "TOOL GUY" gotta say...a drill is the closest I have come to electric tools for the shop and stuff..

    Acutally washed, cleaned and sealed my car the other day by hand......cause I am still not 100% ready I guess but the PC or GRIOTS seem so far the best choice too start... with all your recommendations of course.

    appreciate for sure!

    PS: those spots on my hood I mentioned to my dealer they need to polish out..seems like they removed those I showed them...but still some strange spots on the hood in other places..might upload a pic cause I have no clue what it is (still)...old bird dropping, tar, tree sap... not sure. Unable to clean it off by hand.
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    Re: Advise for flex noob

    That's correct, no real need to change out the counterweight from the factory installed 6" to a 5" (although it is super easy...2 screws).
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