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    Re: Blackfire Rinseless

    I thought it was pretty good,but I have used better since. It did seem to enhance beading.

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    How are Blackfire, Pinnacle and Wolfgang connected? They are all affiliate operations of PBM and Vision, right? Do they share a lab, facilities, staff? Just curious. It would make sense for R&D purposes to share knowledge and not reinvent the wheel. It would seem to me to be a perfect opportunity for business synergy.

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    Re: Blackfire Rinseless

    Is the blackfire rinceless a new formula or just new bottle? Anyone know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rlmccarty2000 View Post
    I don’t know if the new one is good or not. I was not a fan of the old BF. Of the 5 I have tried BF and Pinnacle are on the bottom due to lack of slickness. McKees, ECH2O, Wolfgang, BF, Pinnacle in that order.
    Which McKees are you referring too? N-914 or the one containing wax? I’m out of rinceless and I’m going to order some this week, but I can’t make up my mind which one to get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tmcbigblue View Post
    Which McKees are you referring too? N-914 or the one containing wax? I’m out of rinceless and I’m going to order some this week, but I can’t make up my mind which one to get.
    N-914. I haven’t tried the one with wax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Route246 View Post
    How are Blackfire, Pinnacle and Wolfgang connected? They are all affiliate operations of PBM and Vision, right? Do they share a lab, facilities, staff? Just curious. It would make sense for R&D purposes to share knowledge and not reinvent the wheel. It would seem to me to be a perfect opportunity for business synergy.
    Sorry for off topic - Route246: Please ignore the dislike- accidentally clicked it when scrolling on my phone.

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    Re: Blackfire Rinseless

    I picked up a bottle of the old formula rinseless for 4 bucks during the 4th sale. Couldn't pass that up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllenK View Post
    I picked up a bottle of the old formula rinseless for 4 bucks during the 4th sale. Couldn't pass that up.
    I don’t know that the formula changed, maybe just the bottle (not sure). I have a gallon of the old label and it’s quite good. Used it throughout the past winter. Cleans well and leaves a nice shine, especially on black where the tri-polymers seem to excel.

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    Re: Blackfire Rinseless

    yeah I just use it for claying after i wash. seems excellent for me....considering its free over a certain $$ amount when i got it the first time and yes i did grab a $4 bottle again of it on the 4th haha.

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    Whatever the case may be,it's a good product and an absolute steal at that price. I should've gotten more of it.

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