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    Claying every time you wax?

    I was on another forum and really was trying to be reasonable but someone else asked if it was necessary to clay every time you are going to apply an LSP I totally understand the point of the baggie tes however, if you are going to apply a new lsp definitely why not clay? I was also argued it would damage your clear coat doing it that often. I feel like if you use enough lubrication, that should not matter too. Basically feeling that if you would need to apply a new coat, it should not be done before claying

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    Re: Claying every time you wax?

    My opinion, without any scientific evidence, is that clay is an abrasive, regardless of how much lube you use. For me, if I clay, I polish. I think marring is inevitable if you use clay. I think a synthetic clay may mar less.
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    Re: Claying every time you wax?

    I don't always clay before applying sealant. I feel that if the paint passes the baggie test it's fine enough to seal after a thorough bucket wash.

    However every once in a great while [like after 1yr. or more] I'll clay even though it really doesn't need it. That's what I just did to the Kia. However I messed up and clayed it last Sunday evening and it got late and condensation kicked in... Combine that with a busy week and I wasn't able to lay down lsp until today. I didn't really like that, but things aren't always perfect.



    I used the Pinnacle Ultra Poly Clay. I could see it pick up the occasional blackhead on the paint, but overall the paint was clean enough to not show much of anything as far as grit on the claybar.



    If the vehicle was any other color besides white, I would've went straight to lsp.

    Nothing wrong with claying as long as you use plenty of lube and aren't 1 of those people who claim they marr their paint every time they clay. I personally never marr my paint.

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    Re: Claying every time you wax?

    My 2016 Camaro paint mars when you blow on it!


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    Re: Claying every time you wax?

    I will not clay if I know my ride is clean and it's been only a week or 2 for the 2nd or 3rd coat.

    If you are adding a new type of LSP, I will clay (my case Nanoskin Blue) and then use a dedicated wax remover or an ultra fine polish and polish the car. My polishing will be very minimal, just enough to remove the LSP. If there are areas that do need polishing I will just do that. If I feel my ride doesn't need a light polishing then the dedicated wax remover will suffice.

    So I am in your camp if you are going to use a new and completely different LSP from the current one you have then I do the aforementioned above. Even if this is OVERKILL I could care less....I ENJOY and HAVE FUN doing this procedure. It's my stress relief!
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    Re: Claying every time you wax?

    "Claying every time you wax?"

    No...

    Claying once a year is plenty.
    If you make a scratching sound when rubbing the paint or fail the baggie test, then yes. It would take a year or more to get that bad. So once a year is plenty.

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    Re: Claying every time you wax?

    Also consider how often you wax. If you wax once a month it is very unlikely your car will need to be clayed each time.

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    Re: Claying every time you wax?

    Quote Originally Posted by KirkH View Post
    My 2016 Camaro paint mars when you blow on it!


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    What kinds of different clay have you tried on it?

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    Re: Claying every time you wax?

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    What kinds of different clay have you tried on it?
    I use the very best. English made Bilt Hamber soft.
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    Claying every time you wax?

    Quote Originally Posted by KirkH View Post
    I use the very best. English made Bilt Hamber soft.
    If it's the best, then why does it marr your paint?

    Have you tried this? It's supposed to be ultra fine grade.


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