Souveran-Fuzion "Test"

**hoyt66** · 08-23-2015, 06:01 AM

Tried to see the difference between Souvern and Fuzion wax. I stripped Souveran off and applied Fuzion 2 separate times on my silver hood but failed to see the

difference, looking for the glow of carnauba and the more candied look of a hybrid wax. I looked from all angles moving the car around several times. The metallic popped equally for both waxes.

IDK maybe as long as silver is prepped and prepared correctly it doesn't matter what you go with.

**Setec Astronomy** · 08-23-2015, 06:24 AM

Originally Posted by hoyt66

IDK maybe as long as silver is prepped and prepared correctly it doesn't matter what you go with.

I think you'll find the difference is in the longevity.

**Dogfather** · 08-23-2015, 06:30 AM

Originally Posted by Setec Astronomy

I think you'll find the difference is in the longevity.

It would be a shame if that were the only real difference in LSPs.
It may very well be.

**Setec Astronomy** · 08-23-2015, 06:31 AM

As Meticulous Detail says "the prep makes the pop, not what's on top".

**silverfox** · 08-23-2015, 07:18 AM

If coatings have taught us nothing...its that you can't cut corners and use a crutch like wax to hide your cutting corners on prep work. Wax is a crutch. I've read countless threads where nubies to coatings instinctively complain about the "look" that a coating leaves, and therefore the instinctive need to top it with something to make it look better. Bottom line....wax is synonymous with a certain look because over the years it was the focus of an easy way to cover a variety of sins. Truth is...if you master the prep step, you don't need anything to improve the look.

**FUNX650** · 08-23-2015, 08:37 AM

•Yes...
-Paint polishing will yield the biggest improvement
to a vehicle’s overall appearance, not the kind of
Wax you use.

•Yet, even after this biggest improvement step,
-the paint will usually still have peaks and valleys:
-It is still not completely smooth.

•Gloss, shine, sheen, etc. is said to come
from the paint being as smooth as possible.

•LSPs, (any/all), are applied for "protection".
-At the same time...LSPs are helping to
fill-in those microscopic valleys.
-Thus: Creating that smoothness.

Bob

**Setec Astronomy** · 08-23-2015, 08:49 AM

We have plenty of members who say that different LSP's have different looks. Then we have threads like this where a member says he used different LSP's side-by-side and couldn't tell a difference.

Certainly had plenty of opinions that both ways (in the past) about whether anyone can tell side-by-side a difference or which is which when applied to one panel that has been prepped identically. I don't know what to say but it's certainly an interesting discussion.

**KBsToy** · 08-23-2015, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by Setec Astronomy

We have plenty of members who say that different LSP's have different looks. Then we have threads like this where a member says he used different LSP's side-by-side and couldn't tell a difference.

Certainly had plenty of opinions that both ways (in the past) about whether anyone can tell side-by-side a difference or which is which when applied to one panel that has been prepped identically. I don't know what to say but it's certainly an interesting discussion.

Being a weekend detailer I would have to go along with this. We have 2 white cars non-metallic and have used different LSP`s Both cars where decon, polished then LSP. Not being a pro they look the same, longevity I can not speak of because I just did these in the recent month..

Just my 2cents for the conversation

**aim4squirrels** · 08-23-2015, 10:12 AM

Not to muddy the waters here, but I would wager that if their truly is any difference to the overall look between these two waxes, silver and white might be the toughest colors to judge it on.

Doesn't invalidate the comparison, especially for hoyt66. He probably just learned he can use whatever gives him the most pleasure: cheapest price, longevity, or any combo of the 2 and stop searching for the Holy Grail.

Could be a happy or sad day for him, depending on how you look at it.

**Dogfather** · 08-23-2015, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by Setec Astronomy

We have plenty of members who say that different LSP's have different looks. Then we have threads like this where a member says he used different LSP's side-by-side and couldn't tell a difference.

Certainly had plenty of opinions that both ways (in the past) about whether anyone can tell side-by-side a difference or which is which when applied to one panel that has been prepped identically. I don't know what to say but it's certainly an interesting discussion.

I have fun pretending I see a difference.