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    Hate to ask this but.....

    Whats the best wax/sealer out there that will provide good protection and.....god help me......cover up swirls!
    Problem is, I offer a standard wash and wax package that's just a clay and wax. I'm currently just using my power lock. I don't do too many of these packages but I'm not happy with the way they turn out because I can see all the swirls. I know the customer is happy with the results because they just want to see it shine and they don't care about swirls. Since I'm something of a perfectionist I'd like to at least cover them up some. I know it goes against everything I stand for in detailing but like I said if the customer isn't willing to pay for a polish I'm ok with trying to make the car look as nice as possible with a cover up. Thanks

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    Re: Hate to ask this but.....

    When doing such details I skip wax/sealants and shoot straight for the Glaze.. My go to is Chemical Guys Glossworkz or CG Blacklight.
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    Re: Hate to ask this but.....

    Try Poorboy's Black Hole glaze. This will cover up minor swirls and scratches. Then use a spray wax for a little protection. It comes down to "you get what you pay for".

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    Re: Hate to ask this but.....

    I agree with both of the above posts. But the flip side to consider is none of those products, of which I have two of, give much longevity or long term protection compared to PL. So the catch 22 is their cars may look good for a short period of time but you'll be sacrificing the longevity. They may then feel the shine didn't last and not come back? If they are happy now with the PL, I'd stay with that as it looks great and has excellent durability. The swirl marks aren't a big deal to the everyday driver.
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    Re: Hate to ask this but.....

    Chemical Guys "Wet Mirror Finish" is a glaze thats great and will cover swirls.

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    Re: Hate to ask this but.....

    I would skip the claying as that is inducing additional swirls. Why not use an AIO instead.

    If you are gonna glaze the swirls will reappear in a short amount of time

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    Re: Hate to ask this but.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Eandras View Post
    I would skip the claying as that is inducing additional swirls. Why not use an AIO instead.

    If you are gonna glaze the swirls will reappear in a short amount of time
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    In that case go with HD SPEED!!!!!! Great stuff!

    Check out this link, that's a two step I did with HD Speed and HD Poxy.

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    Re: Hate to ask this but.....

    Instead of using "glazes"; and to stay somewhat
    within the "Sealant category":

    I'd use a Cleaner/Sealant to help cover up the swirls:
    one that'll leave a modicum of protection behind.

    One like Klasse AIO, for example.



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    Re: Hate to ask this but.....

    I understand the clay puts some more swirls into it but some of the paint feels down right nasty and I wouldn't feel right just throwing wax on top of that surface. For my basic package I was trying to avoid using a machine completely so that leaves out AIO's. Glaze would do the trick but maybe I could follow that up with a quick spray wax? What's the rules on wax on top of glaze? Any?? I'd probably rather not want to do that either though since I'm not trying to marry the car for the price being paid. I try to push as much as possible my middle of the road package which usually ends up being menzerna PF followed by the PL.

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    Re: Hate to ask this but.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Newdetailer1 View Post
    For my basic package I was trying to avoid using a machine completely so that leaves out AIO's.
    You don't absolutely have to use a machine
    to apply many AIOs...including Klasse AIO.

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