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    M105 in rock chips

    Hey guys. This is my first post, I've been lingering around this site picking up some really great info over the past 6 months. Awesome forum!

    I have an 07 VW GTI in black magic pearl. I bought it 6 months ago and did my first serious detail/paint correction just after I got it. I clayed it, used Meguiars M105, M205 and Meguiars Liquid Carnauba wax. It turned out great! Except...

    After I used M105 I noticed ALL the rock chips were white! The compound must have dried in the chips and I couldn't get it out. I immediately tried some quick detailer and a nylon brush, didn't work. Then I tried a heavy IPA dilution and a brush, didn't work. I just left it alone and finished polishing and waxing. I figured I'd just live with it and maybe a number of car washes will get it out.

    It's been about 4-5 months since I did all this and the compound is still imbedded in these rock chips. There are thousands of chips in my front end! It's driving me nuts.

    So the other day I tried mineral spirits (someone recommended it on here) and a nylon brush, didn't work. Then I tried a diluted mixture of Zep Citrus Degreaser with a brush and that didn't get it out either!

    I don't know what else to do. I don't really want to get the front end resprayed. I'm thinking of just spending a few days and touching them all up with some touch up paint.

    I've posted some photos below from my phone.

    What do you guys think I should do?


    This is after paint correction. Looks pretty good.

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    Here are the rock chips. It's like this all over the front end.

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    Re: M105 in rock chips

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    Quote Originally Posted by kishmack View Post
    don't know what else to do. I don't really want to get the front end resprayed. I'm thinking of just spending a few days and touching them all up with some touch up paint.
    IMHO:
    Putting touch-up paint on top of paint chips that are already full of a compound is an exercise in futility. The chips have to be completely cleaned out first.

    •So...In this case:
    "Like removes Like" probably is not a viable option.

    •Sounds like you need to get some "panel wipes" similar to
    the paint-prep chemicals that paint and body shops use:
    -DuPont PrepSol
    -3M Prep Solvent
    -Wurth Clean Solve
    -Klean Strip Prep-All

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    Re: M105 in rock chips

    Thanks for the reply! Yeah I know it has to be fully cleaned out for the paint to adhere properly. I just wasn't sure what product I would need, I would think that what I've tried so far should've done it.

    Dumb question. Are those paint prep chemicals safe for paint? It won't fade/haze or strip the finish?

    Thanks

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    Re: M105 in rock chips

    ...and a toothpick


    Steam sometimes helps too

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    Re: M105 in rock chips

    paint them with Dr Color Chip. prep, wipe, done.

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    Re: M105 in rock chips

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    paint them with Dr Color Chip. prep, wipe, done.
    What technique are you using to remove the M105 from the chips, during you prep process?

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    Re: M105 in rock chips

    Quote Originally Posted by allenk4 View Post
    ...and a toothpick





    Steam sometimes helps too

    +1 for steam
    Works great removing polish around badging as well if you polish inside the lettering with a q-tip

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    Quote Originally Posted by greatwhitenorth View Post
    +1 for steam
    Works great removing polish around badging as well if you polish inside the lettering with a q-tip

    Is there a cheaper route for creating steam? I don't have a steamer.

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    Re: M105 in rock chips

    Are you sure that is actually polish?

    Maybe the primer underneath is lighter??

    Surprised that a heavy ipa used immediately after didn't take care of it.

    I have a black vehicle that has tiny chips that look similar but it is just the chip....

    Use a clothes iron to create steam.

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    M105 in rock chips

    Quote Originally Posted by toycar18 View Post
    Are you sure that is actually polish?

    Maybe the primer underneath is lighter??

    Use a clothes iron to create steam.

    When I first got the car the rock chips were all touched up black. Immediately after using M105 they all turned white. The DA polisher wouldn't have gotten into the chips and removed the touch up paint?

    70% of the chips are very light, doesn't look like they'd be deep enough to get down to primer/metal.

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