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    Pinnacle Black Label Coating and Single Stage Paint?

    Hey guys,

    I have searched and have not found a quality answer as to whether I can run PBL Paint Coating on my single stage paint. I did find a review of Opti-Coat and Cquartz where the companies responded that a coating may stain single stage paint, but it was uncertain.

    Can anyone definitively answer this? I'd love to try a coating, and the Pinnacle products I have tried to date have been exceptional. I like that the PBL coatings allow layering of wax as I find waxing rather relaxing

    Also, I have a few RIDS on my car which I will not be able to remove safely, will the coating enhance these?

    Thanks in advance

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    Re: Pinnacle Black Label Coating and Single Stage Paint?

    I believe Mike has stated it's okay for single stage. I believe DP Coating is as well.
    Back to the full-time grind.

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    Re: Pinnacle Black Label Coating and Single Stage Paint?

    I just finished re-coating my vehicle with PBL Surface Coating and it has single stage paint.

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    Re: Pinnacle Black Label Coating and Single Stage Paint?

    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post

    Hey guys,

    I have searched and have not found a quality answer as to whether I can run PBL Paint Coating on my single stage paint. I did find a review of Opti-Coat and Cquartz where the companies responded that a coating may stain single stage paint, but it was uncertain.


    Can anyone definitively answer this? I'd love to try a coating, and the Pinnacle products I have tried to date have been exceptional. I like that the PBL coatings allow layering of wax as I find waxing rather relaxing

    Yes you can use the PBL Diamond Paint Coating on single stage paint. The key is the same when applying to clearcoats and that's to first prep the paint using the paint cleansing polish.

    Here's my Detailer's thread about this...

    Detailer’s Paint Coating on Single Stage Paint




    Eric using the Flex 3401 Optimized and also with the Wolfgang Twins




    Eric using the Rupes Bigfoot 21 Optimized and also with Rupes pads and polishes




    He also tried out the new Detailer’s Coating Prep Polish and Detailer’s Paint Coating on this SINGLE STAGE paint system he just polished.


    Eric applying Detailer's Coating Prep Polish by hand





    Eric applying Detailer's Coating Prep Polish by machine





    Eric dampening a clean, dry gold Finger Pocket with Detailer’s Paint Coating




    Gently applying the coating...




    Glassy looking...







    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post

    Also, I have a few RIDS on my car which I will not be able to remove safely, will the coating enhance these?

    Thanks in advance
    If by the word enhance you mean mask the answer is "no".

    It won't make them look deeper and it won't make them look shallow.

    RIDS stand out like sore thumbs because you remove all the shallow scratches surrounding them and that's just the way it works....



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    Re: Pinnacle Black Label Coating and Single Stage Paint?

    Thanks for all the input, much appreciated.

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    Re: Pinnacle Black Label Coating and Single Stage Paint?

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    Thanks for all the input, much appreciated.

    How about some pictures of your project?



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    Red face Re: Pinnacle Black Label Coating and Single Stage Paint?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike.Phillips@Autogeek View Post
    How about some pictures of your project?


    Its a 2006 Lexus IS350, ONYX Black, single stage. I picked it up on Christmas Eve as my Acura was totaled the week before. The car was surprisingly well maintained by the previous owner, it only has 60K miles, not bad for an 8 year old car in Phoenix. It's my DD

    I only have a few pics I took after my first pass with M205 with GG 6" with an orange GG polishing pad back in January. The paint is quite responsive to this combo. I removed all of the swirls, but there are still some RIDS that I need to work through. It's topped with Ultimate Paste Wax, the car has a great wet look to it. I now understand why so many show cars are single stage paint.

    With the paint being so soft, and having several small paint chips from daily driving, I was hoping maybe a coating would provide a bit of extra protection. The car is always garaged at home and at work, so I'm not too worried about the elements. I really enjoy waxing/sealing my car, and I know many coatings are best left without a topping. PBL seems to be one of the few that encourages it, is user friendly for a first timer, and affordable.








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    Re: Pinnacle Black Label Coating and Single Stage Paint?

    Nice finish!

    The coating will make the finish a lot slicker to the touch, this should help with reducing marring. If you don't have the PBL Booster, get some. It really works great to keep the finish slick and glassy.



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    Re: Pinnacle Black Label Coating and Single Stage Paint?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike.Phillips@Autogeek View Post
    Nice finish!

    The coating will make the finish a lot slicker to the touch, this should help with reducing marring. If you don't have the PBL Booster, get some. It really works great to keep the finish slick and glassy.



    Thanks Mike. Now I just need to sack up and try something new.

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    Re: Pinnacle Black Label Coating and Single Stage Paint?

    Quote Originally Posted by 10secdream View Post
    I just finished re-coating my vehicle with PBL Surface Coating and it has single stage paint.
    How often do you re-coat? Did you re-coat out of necessity or desire?

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