Used both, for a darker car Black Fire Black Ice all the way. Lighter car Do Do Light Fantastic or Supernatural, or Fuzion or Souveran (which was on sale the other day) and I have them all and have used them all on my vehicles. I use Wolfgang Deep Gloss 3.0 or Blackfire Wet Diamond first then top with one of these.
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2013 Genesis Coupe 3.8 Track Edition
2015 Hyundai Sonata Limited, 2016 Pearl White Nissan Altima SR
2019 Nissan Rogue SL
I haven't used bouncer, but BF looks great on reds. In fact, BF wet ice over fire looks great on metallic period. It gives a great wet look even on silver.
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