Metal Polish Abrasiveness Scale

[Selvos]

Hi I was wondering if anyone had a scale or chart for Metal Compounds/Polishes that lists them in terms of abrasiveness.


I've tried Menzerna Polishing Creme Metal Polish. This is a very fine polish, good for metals that are already in good condition.

Also Could anyone recommend a good aluminum compound for some messed up wheels?

Thanks.

[erichaley]

I have heard great things about Optimum Metal Polish...

I have been wanting to try Menzerna's metal polish as well.

[Ohio Detailing]

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I'd also like to narrow it down to one fine and one aggressive metal polish. I like how Meg's has Fine / Medium / Aggressive - but I've yet to try.

[erichaley]

P21S Polishing Soap is currently my favorite!

[FUNX650]

If you're not talking about compounds/"rouges" that are used with wheels/buffs, and stuff, to polish metal...

Then you'll find that most metal polishes such as:
Meguiar's, Mother's, Wenol, Simichrome, Flitz, Collinite's #850, etc. will probably contain the following materials as abrasives:

Aluminum Oxide...CAS# 1344-28-1
(A few synonyms: Solid polishing powder; polishing material aluminum earth)

Some may have this abrasive:
Silica...CAS# 68855-54-9
(A synonym: Flux calcined diatomaceous earth)

-Of course there will be solvents in metal polishes like:
White-spirits; kerosene; and/or other petroleum distillates and/or their synonyms.

-Some will have trace amounts of other ingredients (such as:morpholine; glycerol)
The MSDS's will/should provide this information.

-Some manufacturers will say/list the abrasiveness by grit size (320/600/1200/etc)....But:
Just as in appraising the abrasiveness of the abrasives found in paint-work polishes:
Looking on the MSDS for the % by weight/volume of these abrasives found in each
metal polish product will give an overview of their abrasiveness.

Remember: The "applicators" used with a metal polish will somewhat add to the abrasiveness scale.

-Not an exact scientific-abrasiveness-scale, per se...
But perhaps I can list specific metal polishes, and the %/type of abrasives they contain
at a future date...if you think that would help.



Bob

[Selvos]

If you're not talking about compounds/"rouges" that are used with wheels/buffs, and stuff, to polish metal...

Then you'll find that most metal polishes such as:
Meguiar's, Mother's, Wenol, Simichrome, Flitz, Collinite's #850, etc. will probably contain the following materials as abrasives:

Aluminum Oxide...CAS# 1344-28-1
(A few synonyms: Solid polishing powder; polishing material aluminum earth)

Some may have this abrasive:
Silica...CAS# 68855-54-9
(A synonym: Flux calcined diatomaceous earth)

-Of course there will be solvents in metal polishes like:
White-spirits; kerosene; and/or other petroleum distillates and/or their synonyms.

-Some will have trace amounts of other ingredients (such as:morpholine; glycerol)
The MSDS's will/should provide this information.

-Some manufacturers will say/list the abrasiveness by grit size (320/600/1200/etc)....But:
Just as in appraising the abrasiveness of the abrasives found in paint-work polishes:
Looking on the MSDS for the % by weight/volume of these abrasives found in each
metal polish product will give an overview of their abrasiveness.

Remember: The "applicators" used with a metal polish will somewhat add to the abrasiveness scale.

-Not an exact scientific-abrasiveness-scale, per se...
But perhaps I can list specific metal polishes, and the %/type of abrasives they contain
at a future date...if you think that would help.



Bob

Woah! Thanks!

If you want to list the different polishes and % /abrasive type by all means go ahead, but don't feel obligated. You certainly don't need to. I'm not sure what kind of demand there is for this.

Thanks again for the info.

[FUNX650]

Woah! Thanks!

If you want to list the different polishes and % /abrasive type by all means go ahead, but don't feel obligated.
You certainly don't need to. I'm not sure what kind of demand there is for this.

Thanks again for the info.

-Thanks for the kind words...I enjoy projects like this.

-Allow me to show an example of what I was referencing here:

Just as in appraising the abrasiveness of the abrasives found in paint-work polishes:
Looking on the MSDS for the % by weight/volume of these abrasives found in each
metal polish product will give an overview of their abrasiveness

From Meguiar's M105 MSDS:
Section 3-COMPOSITION/INFORMATION ON INGREDIENTS
NAME.................................................. ..............CAS..............%
aluminium oxide..............................................1344-28-1........10-30
solvent naphtha petroleum, medium aliphatic.....64742-88-7.........5-15
distillates, petroleum, middle, hydrotreated.......64742-46-7..........1-5
glycerol.......................................... ...................56-81-5..........1-5


From Meguiar's M205 MSDS:
Section 3-COMPOSITION/INFORMATION ON INGREDIENTS
NAME.................................................. .............CAS...................%
aluminium oxide...............................................134 4-28-1..........5-15
solvent naphtha petroleum, medium aliphatic........64742-88-7.........1-10
distillates, petroleum, middle, hydrotreated..........64742-46-7...........1-5
***isoparaffins petroleum hydrotreated HFP.....64742-47-8.........5-15***
glycerol.......................................... .....................56-81-5.........0.5-3

1.) There appears to be ~50% less amount of aluminum oxide in M205 compared to M105---(designated by red highlighting)

2.) There are three other common ingredients---(designated by blue highlighting)...
with varying %'s on two; identical on one: distillates, petroleum, middle, hydrotreated CAS# 64742-46-7.

3.) Additionally there is one ingredient that's only in M205---(designated by green highlighting.

4.) Knowing both products are of the SMAT-abrasives-technology persuasion...
Is it the green-ingredient, along with lower %'s of the other similar ingredients that makes M205 a less aggressive product
("4" on Meguiar's 'aggressiveness-scale')...than M105 ("12" on Meguiar's 'aggressiveness-scale')?


BTW...(and I could be way off base)
That's why I feel the same type of "ingredients-relationship" is applicable to those of metal polishes as well...
Grab their MSDS's!!



Bob

[allenk4]

Abrasive size...not % is the difference between 105 and 205

[FUNX650]

Abrasive size...not % is the difference between 105 and 205

^^^Are you absolutely sure about this?^^^

Doesn't M105 and M205 utilize the same super-micro abrasive technology (SMAT)....
The same SMAT that uses ultra-hard, non-diminishing abrasives (in this case: aluminum oxide as the abrasive)...
The same Al2O3 abrasives that retains their size and shape throughout their polishing cycle?

"Inquiring minds need to know".

Thanks.



Bob

[HotRodJoe]

From my limited experience, Turtle Wax chrome polish is more abrasive than Mother's, which is more abrasive than Optimum Metal Polish. So that's my most aggressive to least scale:

TW > Mothers > Optimum