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regular wash or Dawn before a clay/polish/seal?
Going to do another clay job, did one for the first time ever on the car and ever myself at all earlier this year, and then polish out some swirls etc. this weekend. I've heard of using Dawn if you intend on stripping old wax and such for a job like this, but wanted to double check on if this is really a "best practice" or should I just stick to the regular wash and let the polishing process remove any leftover wax?
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Re: regular wash or Dawn before a clay/polish/seal?
Originally Posted by flyinion
Going to do another clay job, did one for the first time ever on the car and ever myself at all earlier this year, and then polish out some swirls etc. this weekend. I've heard of using Dawn if you intend on stripping old wax and such for a job like this, but wanted to double check on if this is really a "best practice" or should I just stick to the regular wash and let the polishing process remove any leftover wax?
Did you use wax or sealant? or both?
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Re: regular wash or Dawn before a clay/polish/seal?
Previously "big detail" was just wash, clay, pinnacle paint cleanser, and a couple coats of pinnacle SS II with a followup coat about 6 weeks ago. I will be using the Wolfgang DGPS this time and in the future topped with the SS II however so if that changes anything it would still be good to know for the future.
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Re: regular wash or Dawn before a clay/polish/seal?
It's kinda your choice. Many feel that Dawn is necessary, but the polishing will obviously strip off any wax or sealant. Some say you should strip with Dawn or something else so you don't "clog" your pad with the old wax/sealant. However, seeing as these coatings are literally microns thick, the rationale that they will clog a pad seems a bit thin.
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Re: regular wash or Dawn before a clay/polish/seal?
Washing with a Dawn solution should remove allot of what's ever left. Since you're claying and polishing the surface you'll certainly remove what's ever left.
I tried a new product that's specifically designed for prepping the finish prior to applying a sealant or wax called Griot's Paint Prep. This product is designed to remove all of the old waxes, poly-silicones, and oils so fresh applications of products can properly bond to the surface.
Griot's Garage Paint Prep, Griots Paint Cleaner, Prewax cleaner
In the past I've used mineral spirits which works pretty well too. I haven't done a side by side comparison but I suspect that they're performance is similar.
DuPont Prep-Sol
DUPONT PREP-SOL CLEANER - Prep-Sol 3919S is a cleaning solvent specifically designed for initial surface preparation before painting. Works well on the following difficult to remove elements: wax, grease, silicone, dirt, tar, insect remnants, road film and pin stripe adhesives.
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Re: regular wash or Dawn before a clay/polish/seal?
What you remove first won't wind up in the clay.
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Re: regular wash or Dawn before a clay/polish/seal?
+1 on the Prep-Sol. I've been using Prep-Sol since the mid 70's for stripping wax, sealant and silicone and it never fails to do the job quickly and easily.
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Re: regular wash or Dawn before a clay/polish/seal?
Originally Posted by BobbyG
I tried a new product that's specifically designed for prepping the finish prior to applying a sealant or wax called Griot's Paint Prep. This product is designed to remove all of the old waxes, poly-silicones, and oils so fresh applications of products can properly bond to the surface.
Griot's Garage Paint Prep, Griots Paint Cleaner, Prewax cleaner
Bobby...how'd you like the paint prep? I got some with the BOGO.
Alex
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Re: regular wash or Dawn before a clay/polish/seal?
Originally Posted by BobbyG
I tried a new product that's specifically designed for prepping the finish prior to applying a sealant or wax called Griot's Paint Prep. This product is designed to remove all of the old waxes, poly-silicones, and oils so fresh applications of products can properly bond to the surface.
Griot's Garage Paint Prep, Griots Paint Cleaner, Prewax cleaner
Bobby, How did that Paint Prep work out? I just got some, any tips on using it?
Dave
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Re: regular wash or Dawn before a clay/polish/seal?
Hmmm, I think I'll go ahead and try the Dawn then. This weekend is a "hard date" for doing the job so I don't have time to order something and wait for it to get here.
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