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    Suggestions for working with new VW paint?

    Hi all,

    Some of you may recall I bought a camaro back over the summer. Well, after some issues, a decision that i wanted to buy a house, and a dealer offering me 3k more than I paid for it, I am now in a Habanero orange 2021 VW Jetta. Like every VW ive bought new the paint is swirled from the dealer -_- . My last VW was mk7 GTI. And i tried a few things to polish the paint and never really made a big difference in swirls. Does anyone have any experience with new VW paints and suggestions about what might work?

    Here is what i have at my disposal:

    Griots black pads
    Rupes Yellow pads
    Griots orange cutting pads
    Griots microfiber pad

    Griots G12
    Griots G8 Mini

    Car pro Essence polish (bought for the white camaro)
    Meguiars 205
    Meguiars 105
    Griots Compound
    Gyeon Prep
    Griots speed clay
    Meguiars d15501 last touch spray (quick detailer)
    Meguiars d11101 Shampoo plus

    Griots Ceramic 3 in 1 spray wax



    My plan is to Wash, Clay, polish (compound IF needed),prep, and finish up with the spray ceramic wax as the protection should last until spring. The question is, will the pinnacle on a rupes yellow be enough?

    Also, very open to suggestions about other products in terms of polish and pads.

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    Re: Suggestions for working with new VW paint?

    If you are going to use a Rupes Yellow pad, you'll want to go with a fairly aggressive polish/compound in order to make even a dent in the swirls.

    When I owned a black metallic Mk6 GTI, my go-to combination was a white Lake Country Think Pro pad and Blackfire's Compound (both the discontinued SRC line and the new one). This would allow me to do a one-step job on the car and knock out light/moderate swirls. The Rupes pads seem to be a touch more aggressive, so I think they are a good place to start.

    I don't have any experience with any of the polishes/compounds you list. Closest I've come to any of those products is Meguiars Ultimate Polish and Compound which supposedly are similar to 105/205. They were OK on soft paint, but didn't impress me much with the gloss they delivered. Hopefully 105/205 are better. I'm currently using the Griots BOSS line of polishes, but don't know how they stand up to the regular Griots line.

    You'll need to do a series of test spots with various combinations of pads/polishes to see what works the best.
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    Re: Suggestions for working with new VW paint?

    Paint is pretty hard. For any defect removal you'll want to start with something more aggressive. In my MK7 GTI to remove a scratch I have to use microfiber and Jescar Correcting Compound (I'm sure you could use a different compound, I also like Griot's Fast Correcting Cream but it cuts less than Jescar). Wool pad might work well too but I don't have any of those, I should get some as people say it can be better than microfiber.

    With foam pads you can only remove the lightest of swirls on the hard paint that came in these cars.
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    Re: Suggestions for working with new VW paint?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bruno Soares View Post
    Paint is pretty hard. For any defect removal you'll want to start with something more aggressive. In my MK7 GTI to remove a scratch I have to use microfiber and Jescar Correcting Compound (I'm sure you could use a different compound, I also like Griot's Fast Correcting Cream but it cuts less than Jescar). Wool pad might work well too but I don't have any of those, I should get some as people say it can be better than microfiber.

    With foam pads you can only remove the lightest of swirls on the hard paint that came in these cars.
    I guess ill see what polish does on a foam pad, then if needed i can compound with the microfiber. I have a similar issue with my b8.5 s4 where nothing short of the microfiber seems to remove swirls. Perhaps ill just do a polish to make the paint pop, and then get the BOSS from griots for the spring.

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    Re: Suggestions for working with new VW paint?

    I polished out a black metallic Porsche Cayenne once with paint which was harder than my VW. I got it done with a compound and Lake Country orange pads. It took forever and and it left enough polishing haze I had to polish out with a second step. A MF pad would have probably saved me a ton of time with the compounding step. I need to get a couple to keep on hand.
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    Re: Suggestions for working with new VW paint?

    I have a 2016 Tornado Red Golf R.
    It was the first vehicle I tackled paint correction.

    I used:
    Griots G6
    5" Lake Country Pads - Microfiber and Orange/white foam.
    Meguiar's Ultimate Compound and Polish

    To get the swirls out, I had to do each section 2x with the microfiber and compound. That was 3-4 section passes, repeated 2x. I think a few of the really bad areas I did a 3rd time (mainly for a few deeper scratches).
    I then went over with the orange pad and polish. I tried the white pad and polish, but it didn't seem to pop as much as the (slightly) more aggressive orange pad.

    I wish I had something more aggressive for the compounding step so I didn't have to go over it 2x.

    When I was doing my test spots, the white pad and polish didn't do shiii.....anything to the swirls.

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    Re: Suggestions for working with new VW paint?

    Out of what you have the 105 on the microfiber cutting pad will cut it but that is going to be one dusty combo. You can try the orange griot’s pad with the 105. That should give you some decent cut. Whenever I used 105 I always kept a small spray bottle and spritzed it with a little water when it started to dry out. It kept the dust down and allowed you to work it a little longer so it finished better. Finishe with the yellow Rupes pad and Essence. With what you have that’s your best option. If the orange pad doesn’t do it use the 105 and microfiber and spritz a little more often.
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    Re: Suggestions for working with new VW paint?

    I would suggest 6 inch RUPES Medium Yellow Wool Polishing Pad and CARPRO ClearCut Fast Cut Compound 250 ml.. Then finish with an LC orange Rupes Yellow foam and Carpro Reflect or Essence if it really needs it, but the yellow wool should finish down ok on rock hard clear. I think this is the way to go without spending forever not making much progress.

    If you’re skerd of the wool you could start with the microfiber or Rupes Yellow foam, and the Griot’s. It should make it “better” but if but in the end with the work you put in I don’t think you’ll be happy…

    Let us know what you end up trying and how you fair! Sounds like a fun project, love orange.

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    Re: Suggestions for working with new VW paint?

    Quote Originally Posted by Odrapnew View Post
    I wish I had something more aggressive for the compounding step so I didn't have to go over it 2x.

    When I was doing my test spots, the white pad and polish didn't do shiii.....anything to the swirls.
    I think there were a couple things going on from your description.

    You really need better polishes than the Meguiars Ultimate products. They are simply, OK, from my experience. Plenty of others which will cut and polish better to give you much better results.

    Like you found a white pad and a polish on VW paint won't do anything. When I owned my GTI, I tired both an orange pad and polish and a white pad and a compound. I found a white pad and a compound produced the best results. Over the 6~7 years I owned the car, it became my go-to strategy and was able to knock out many one-step polishes.

    For any polishing products you need to do more section passes too. I typically do 5~6 on any car, regardless of paint, unless I'm just trying to do something very minor like polish out a coating high spot.
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    Re: Suggestions for working with new VW paint?

    I did some testing last night. yesterday i noticed some adhesive that i HAD to remove for my sanity. So i broke out the detailing supplies. I decided while I had it out to do some test polishing.
    Cleaned and clayed an area on the passenger door that had some marring, and swirls. Used some polish on a microfiber towel to remove the adhesive (goo gone and clay didnt work). I used the towel so as not to get my pads gunked up. Then i used some of the essence on an orange pad with my g8 mini. It removed the marring and most of the swirls, but some light scratches didn't budge. So i put some griots compound on my g9, with a microfiber pad and it gut right through in 2 passes. only a deeper scratch stayed and i didnt feel like attacking it. It looks like a polish on an orange pad will get rid of most of the defects. I am of course going to try half the hood with polish this weekend to see if it comes out how i want. I believe the swirls are light enough that i can deal with them with what i have thankfully.

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