AIO or other product?

**lucky417** · 08-24-2021, 12:23 PM

I'm looking for a product that will clean the paint and put down a nice layer of protection at the same time. I really don't want to remove clear coat but if it doesn't cut much ill just use a wax pad instead of polishing pad to help even more. The reason is that my wife just got a tahoe and damn its alot of real estate to cover. Its a darker gunmetal with metallic flake My got to for my tacoma is blackfire wet diamond gloss enhancing polish. then the sealant, then top with the black ice hybrid. I really don't want to do all those steps with it as it would take me (by myself) forever. I have some Klasse but i feel like there might be something better. Not that Klasse is bad but just wanting to see what the experts say. Would an all in one from say blackfire or the like be my best bet or what other options are there?

**noorth** · 08-24-2021, 12:50 PM

Blackfire One Step and 3D Speed seem to be the most popular AIO's on autogeek. Since you already have some blackfire LSP's and in case you decide to top up the tahoe i would go with blackfire just for that reason.

I'm sure someone will chime in about the differences of the 2.

**weekend warrior** · 08-24-2021, 01:54 PM

I also use Blackfire AIO one step....then top it with Blackfire SIO2 spray sealant....3D speed like noorth said is also a good product...I just never used it...

**PaulMys** · 08-24-2021, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by weekend warrior

I also use Blackfire AIO one step....then top it with Blackfire SIO2 spray sealant....3D speed like noorth said is also a good product...I just never used it...

I have (and use) both. Speed is every bit as good as BF One Step, and in my opinion leaves the paint way slicker.

BF gets the nod for correction ability (but not by much).

Also note: The metallic will hide a ton of smaller imperfections. Either product will work great for you.

**lucky417** · 08-24-2021, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by PaulMys

I have (and use) both. Speed is every bit as good as BF One Step, and in my opinion leaves the paint way slicker.

BF gets the nod for correction ability (but not by much).

Also note: The metallic will hide a ton of smaller imperfections. Either product will work great for you.

I was leaning towards blackfire but i really didnt want to remove clear coat if possible. Would using a sealant (black hex logic) pad reduce to cutting by a discernable difference? Or do all AIO remove some clear? Im just worried that using it a couple times a year over several years might cut through the clear or damage paint

**opie** · 08-24-2021, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by lucky417

I was leaning towards blackfire but i really didnt want to remove clear coat if possible. Would using a sealant (black hex logic) pad reduce to cutting by a discernable difference? Or do all AIO remove some clear? Im just worried that using it a couple times a year over several years might cut through the clear or damage paint

You should not be using an aio or polish...hell any abrasives for that matter more than ONCE a year. Your washing your vehicles all wrong if you need to do that.

Why not polish it once and ceramic coat it??...then maintain it by regular washes for then next 2-3 years...with the yearly iron remover bath. Way less labor intensive if you ask me

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**PaulMys** · 08-24-2021, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by lucky417

I was leaning towards blackfire but i really didnt want to remove clear coat if possible. Would using a sealant (black hex logic) pad reduce to cutting by a discernable difference? Or do all AIO remove some clear? Im just worried that using it a couple times a year over several years might cut through the clear or damage paint

The amount of clear that you would be removing is negligible with an AIO product. And, if you keep the paint in good condition with the proper washing/detailing techniques, you will have very little correcting to do.

This means that after washing and decon/claying, you will be able to simply do a quick "once-over" with your AIO.

**2black1s** · 08-24-2021, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by lucky417

I was leaning towards blackfire but i really didnt want to remove clear coat if possible. Would using a sealant (black hex logic) pad reduce to cutting by a discernable difference? Or do all AIO remove some clear? Im just worried that using it a couple times a year over several years might cut through the clear or damage paint

I'd say you've got 20 or 30 years or more to go before you start worrying about clear-coat removal.

But if you can't wrap your head around that and the concern remains, try something like Meguiar's OTC Cleaner Wax in the maroon bottle. It's a really good non-abrasive AIO.

**lucky417** · 08-24-2021, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by opie

You should not be using an aio or polish...hell any abrasives for that matter more than ONCE a year. Your washing your vehicles all wrong if you need to do that.

Why not polish it once and ceramic coat it??...then maintain it by regular washes for then next 2-3 years...with the yearly iron remover bath. Way less labor intensive if you ask me

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I dont/wont use it for corrective value, just protection. Im just trying to make it easier to maintain hence why I was looking at AIO since they clean and laydown a layer of protection at the same time. Ive looked at ceramic coating but I have no confidence in me not screwing it up lol. What ceramic coat you like?

**lucky417** · 08-24-2021, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by 2black1s

I'd say you've got 20 or 30 years or more to go before you start worrying about clear-coat removal.

But if you can't wrap your head around that and the concern remains, try something like Meguiar's OTC Cleaner Wax in the maroon bottle. It's a really good non-abrasive AIO.

Ill look into meguiars. Ive found their products to be hit or miss though.