Alternative to OPC?

[CleanIT]

It seems that OPC is still considered the best, most safe overall APC on the market. I have some Meguiar's D107 on hand, which is fine, but looking for something like OPC that claims to be much more safe, for users and environment that is readily available. Or should I just keep ordering OPC?

[Klasse Act]

Since joining AG back in Feb of 2012, THIS is the single product I continually buy when I'm running low on it. Sure, I've bought Purple Power but use that around the house and sometimes just to see how it compares to "Alien Kleen" for car cleaning duties and while PP @1:1 is good and less expensive, Alien Kleen @3:1 just does a better job.

For whatever reason this is ONE product I'll be buying as long as it's being made

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[CleanIT]

Thanks! I'm going to continue to use it. It's one of those products you always hear positive things about.

[FUNX650]

I'm going to continue to use it.

It's one of those products you never
hear anything but good things.

Is it too late to suggest alternatives?
If not:

•Here are couple that come to mind:
-McKee's 37 Hi-Intensity APC Plus
-Meguiar's D101 All Purpose Cleaner


•And for those “sickening” detail jobs:
-Spray Nine Heavy Duty Cleaner +De-
greaser +Disinfectant


Bob

[CleanIT]

Thanks! Is the Megiuars D101 as "safe" as the OPC? For some reason, probably their marketing, I associate OPC as more eco friendly and overall safer on more surfaces. Hard to say I guess....

[MisterSnoop]

Thanks! Is the Megiuars D101 as "safe" as the OPC? For some reason, probably their marketing, I associate OPC as more eco friendly and overall safer on more surfaces. Hard to say I guess....

pH wise, OPC is closer to neutral than D101 (11.5 vs 13)

[FUNX650]

Is the Megiuars D101 as "safe" as
the OPC? For some reason, probably
their marketing, I associate OPC as
more eco friendly and overall safer
on more surfaces.

Hard to say I guess....

IMO:
•Per their below SDSes:
-Both contain pretty much the same ingredients.
-Both fail in the “eco-friendly” category.

https://www.meguiars.com/sites/defau...D101%20SDS.pdf

https://www.opticoat.com/wp-content/...-Clean-SDS.pdf


Bob

[PA DETAILER]

I have used quite a few over the years, and use 3D YELLOW DEGREASER. Primary use is for the felt fender wheels and tires. It is safe and just works.

3D Yellow Degreaser 106 128 oz.

[UncleDavy]

Just about any APC can be considered pH neutral if they are diluted enough. Cleaners are considered pH neutral if they are in the pH range of 6 to 8. Meguiars D101 is an excellent APC but it is very alkaline in concentrate. It has a pH of 13 and diluted 10:1 the pH goes down to 11.95. That is still a strong cleaner and very effective but it may not be safe for certain delicate interior surfaces.
Simple Green is a safe, pH neutral cleaner that works very well for general dust, scuffs and dirt. In concentrate, it has a pH range of 8.5-9.2. Diluted 10:1 the pH goes down to 7.95 if we assume an original value of 9.0.
Bob mentioned Spray Nine and that is an excellent cleaner that also kills the COVID virus. The pH range is 12-12.8. After my car was destroyed in the wreck my company gave me a rental from Enterprise. They had a sign that said they "cleaned" and "disinfected" the surfaces with Clorox wipes. I saw food stains all over the console and the radio dial. That car got a full cleaning with straight Spray Nine and I did not care one bit about being pH neutral.

[CleanIT]

It appears OPC is known for its cleaning ability that doesn’t solely come from its high pH which is only around 11.


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