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    Blackfire pro ceramic vs Blackfire pro ceramic black edition

    Which one of these two coatings would be better or are they the same thing? I've used the Blackfire diamond paint coating and didn't get good results but I'm wanting to try a ceramic again. It looks like theres also a black label diamond ceramic pro. Would that one be the better option since it costs more? Thanks for any advice.

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    Re: Blackfire pro ceramic vs Blackfire pro ceramic black edition

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    Re: Blackfire pro ceramic vs Blackfire pro ceramic black edition

    The black sounds like a graphene type product based on the description. I think the black is slightly more difficult to use.

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    Blackfire pro ceramic vs Blackfire pro ceramic black edition

    The difference is the durability claims and flash times.




    Quote Originally Posted by DUBL0WS6 View Post
    The black sounds like a graphene type product based on the description. I think the black is slightly more difficult to use.
    There is no graphene in either of these. These are both ceramic.

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    Re: Blackfire pro ceramic vs Blackfire pro ceramic black edition

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    That's not accurate.

    The Black Edition has a much higher concentration of solids than the Pro Ceramic.

    I've used both and there's a substantial difference. And everyone LOVES this picture of the water beading on a black C8 Corvette created from the BLACK EDITION.


    Review & How-To: BLACKFIRE Pro Ceramic Paint Coating Black Edition


    BLACKFIRE Pro Ceramic Paint Coating Black Edition





    That was taken with my lowly iPhone 10X



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    Re: Blackfire pro ceramic vs Blackfire pro ceramic black edition

    Quote Originally Posted by twahl View Post

    Which one of these two coatings would be better or are they the same thing? I've used the Blackfire diamond paint coating and didn't get good results but I'm wanting to try a ceramic again. It looks like theres also a black label diamond ceramic pro. Would that one be the better option since it costs more? Thanks for any advice.

    The BLACKFIRE Black Edition is bullet proof.

    While one of the features that is touted about this product is the long flash time or the longer time you have before you need to start wiping the panel to further spread the product and remove any high spots - I would wait about 45 seconds to a minute and then wipe.

    If you don't get this off - you will have to compound it off. It's no harder or easier to work with than any other conventional coating. It is freaking bullet proof.

    In the review I shared above, you'll see my brother-in-law's 2020 C8 Corvette. I've detailed a number of cars for PJ and out of all the different ways I've "sealed" the paint, it's the Black Edition that he loves on his Vette. It stays clean and when he does wash it - it's fast and easy.


    Hang tight, I took a picture of just this last Saturday.







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    Re: Blackfire pro ceramic vs Blackfire pro ceramic black edition

    Here you go, fresh off my phone,


    It's been 8 months since I coated this old 2-door Chevy,





    PJ is NOT a detailer. He appreciates a great looking car but he's not the kind of guy you would ever find hanging out on a forum like this to figure out how to best take care of his cars.

    I've made sure he has a quality wash mitt, some good car wash soap, etc. And to this day, the finish on his black Corvette is still swirl-free.


    So there is a difference between the two coatings you asked about and it's not more adjectives

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    Re: Blackfire pro ceramic vs Blackfire pro ceramic black edition

    One more thing....


    If you have NOT read my below article - then read it.

    And if you don't have a GREAT hand-held inspection light then get one.

    I'm serious. Been there, done that. Don't ever want to do it again. (have to compound high spots the day after)


    Installing a Ceramic Paint Coating? You MUST have a GREAT hand held light to avoid high spots!



    Just trying to help folks...


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    Re: Blackfire pro ceramic vs Blackfire pro ceramic black edition

    Thank you very much for the responses. It looks like the black is definitely the way to go. I live on a dirt road so I need something bulletproof. I'm going to get some ordered up along with a light. I'll post results when it's done. Thanks again

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    Re: Blackfire pro ceramic vs Blackfire pro ceramic black edition

    I've "sampled" both and would give the edge (after 3 months) to Black Edition.

    Both, so far, are good, though. Black Edition does produce better beads, and I want to say it sheets off water a bit better as well.

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