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    Still a place for older products??

    I was fairly active on here back in the mid/late 2000s. Back then, sealants were all the rage. I sill have some Klasse, Souveran, PBs Black Hole, Menzerna PowerLock and I even think some 4* stuff around. Is there still a place for this older generation of products or have most folks gone to ceramic/graphene stuff?

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    Re: Still a place for older products??

    If it's a liquid and after shaking it up you see a uniform appearance and consistency I'd use it up.



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    Re: Still a place for older products??

    I am sure it is usable. I always kept the stuff inside. I just wonder if anyone still does use it. Are folks still using Carnauba vs synthetics still? I just poked my head in here a few weeks ago and am blown away by all the new stuff. I have a company car so I have been out of it a while, but my GF just bought a new 4Runner, so the detail bug is spreading its wings.

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    Re: Still a place for older products??

    If you do want to try some new stuff. Gyeon Cancoat could be an excellent option. It will last much longer then most if not all sealants.

    However, like you said the amount of products is pretty astounding. Ceramic waxes are interesting has well if you like machine applying waxes.

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    Re: Still a place for older products??

    To answer the first part of your two-part question... one word - Absolutely!

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    Re: Still a place for older products??

    There's lots of "old school" products around that still hold their own pretty well against the new kids on the block. One of the biggest, if not main, "feature", of the newer products is their longevity. So if you're "old school" and don't mind (or even enjoy) applying a good wax/sealant 2-3X a year, then "some guy" here on AG has a saying ...


    Find something you like and use it often

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    Re: Still a place for older products??

    Quote Originally Posted by 57Rambler View Post
    There's lots of "old school" products around that still hold their own pretty well against the new kids on the block. One of the biggest, if not main, "feature", of the newer products is their longevity. So if you're "old school" and don't mind (or even enjoy) applying a good wax/sealant 2-3X a year, then "some guy" here on AG has a saying ...


    Find something you like and use it often
    Totally agree. How can you be "into" car care, and think a few hours of your time twice a year is "too much"? I don't know, just throwing my two pennies in there..........
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    Re: Still a place for older products??

    IMO:

    •(Except for being applied thinner; and
    then, seemingly: thinner and thinner each
    and every successive model year)...
    -Modernday vehicle paint-systems’ formulas
    haven’t undergone that many fundamental
    chemical changes for quite some time.

    •With that being the case:
    -If the “old-school” detailing chemicals met
    with your expectations/approval before your
    recent hiatus from detailing...then they should
    perform in the exact same capacity nowadays.


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    Re: Still a place for older products??

    I was cleaning out a closet and found two brand new bottles of blackfire crystal seal, I just used one on my friend’s C class Mercedes, it is such good stuff and so easy to use…Found a brand new bottle of blackfire total polish and seal too....So good after six years, never opened.....
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    Re: Still a place for older products??

    I still use the "old stuff" as well. Collinite, Finishkare, Meguiar's, Dodo Juice, Poorboys etc.
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