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    How to fix previously(poorly) repaired scratches

    Had a regular client bring an Estoril Blue BMW m3 sedan by for polishing and to try and improve the appearance of a few big scratches on the driver door.

    Somebody used touch up paint previously although the only real sign of this is the smearing running the length of the scratches.

    So my question is how do I remove the previously applied touch up and then what's the best method of dealing with the scratches? I have limited touch up paint experience but lots of patience haha

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    Re: How to fix previously(poorly) repaired scratches

    Those scratches look pretty wide. Or is that just the excess paint smeared around the scratch?

    In any case, the paint used for touch-ups is typically lacquer and if that is your case, then lacquer thinner can be used to remove it. Try on a small section near the end of one of the scratches. Saturate a cotton swap with lacquer thinner and see if it will remove the touch-up paint. Depending how long the touch-up has been there this may take some time. The lacquer thinner will not instantly dissolve the paint but it should eventually. If you can see the color on the swab after a little rubbing then you are making progress. The original finish should tolerate the lacquer thinner for a certain period, but do pay close attention and stop if it appears to be softening.

    If that doesn't work then you'll need to resort to mechanical removal, and that can be a risky proposition... Probably something that should not attempted without careful consideration of the consequences. Some things just can't be fixed.

    If you are successful at removing the old paint, then you can repeat the touch-up using care to keep the touch-up paint within the confines of the existing scratch. Even at that, the color looks like a light metallic blue, and if that is the case do not expect a perfect color match... It isn't happening.

    As for how to perform the touch-up, here's how I do it... Discerning Paint Chip Touch-Up; Not for Everyone or Every Chip ... Although written for touching up chips, the same methodology can be used for scratches.

    There are simpler ways to do the touch-up, but I don't think there is any better way.

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    Re: How to fix previously(poorly) repaired scratches

    Quote Originally Posted by 2black1s View Post
    Those scratches look pretty wide. Or is that just the excess paint smeared around the scratch?

    In any case, the paint used for touch-ups is typically lacquer and if that is your case, then lacquer thinner can be used to remove it. Try on a small section near the end of one of the scratches. Saturate a cotton swap with lacquer thinner and see if it will remove the touch-up paint. Depending how long the touch-up has been there this may take some time. The lacquer thinner will not instantly dissolve the paint but it should eventually. If you can see the color on the swab after a little rubbing then you are making progress. The original finish should tolerate the lacquer thinner for a certain period, but do pay close attention and stop if it appears to be softening.

    If that doesn't work then you'll need to resort to mechanical removal, and that can be a risky proposition... Probably something that should not attempted without careful consideration of the consequences. Some things just can't be fixed.

    If you are successful at removing the old paint, then you can repeat the touch-up using care to keep the touch-up paint within the confines of the existing scratch. Even at that, the color looks like a light metallic blue, and if that is the case do not expect a perfect color match... It isn't happening.

    As for how to perform the touch-up, here's how I do it... Discerning Paint Chip Touch-Up; Not for Everyone or Every Chip ... Although written for touching up chips, the same methodology can be used for scratches.

    There are simpler ways to do the touch-up, but I don't think there is any better way.
    Thank you so much! That's the oversmear the scratch in a tiny little guy roughly in the center of the smear marks. I will give the laquer thinner and cotton swap method a try!

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    Re: How to fix previously(poorly) repaired scratches

    Quote Originally Posted by joshhas99problems View Post
    Thank you so much! That's the oversmear the scratch in a tiny little guy roughly in the center of the smear marks. I will give the laquer thinner and cotton swap method a try!

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    Anytime! I like helping others when and where I can.

    Be sure to follow up here so we know how it works out for you.

    And one more thing... You can also try acetone in lieu of lacquer thinner. It will do the same thing except maybe faster depending on the grade of lacquer thinner you're using. Acetone is a little more universally consistent than lacquer thinners.

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    I have limited touch up paint experience but lots of patience haha
    I would have declined. If you make it worse guess who is going to pay for the repair? Really risky undertaking.
    Rick....now in North Texas

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    Quote Originally Posted by RTexasF View Post
    I would have declined. If you make it worse guess who is going to pay for the repair? Really risky undertaking.
    Agreed and I likely would have if I didnt have a good relationship with this client and have known him for years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2black1s View Post
    Anytime! I like helping others when and where I can.

    Be sure to follow up here so we know how it works out for you.

    And one more thing... You can also try acetone in lieu of lacquer thinner. It will do the same thing except maybe faster depending on the grade of lacquer thinner you're using. Acetone is a little more universally consistent than lacquer thinners.
    Well the laquer thinner works. Took some experimentation but looks like at the very least I will get those nasty smears off!How to fix previously(poorly) repaired scratches-20210221_152348-jpgHow to fix previously(poorly) repaired scratches-20210221_164850-jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by joshhas99problems View Post
    Well the laquer thinner works. Took some experimentation but looks like at the very least I will get those nasty smears off!
    Good to hear. Glad my suggestion actually helped out. Looks 100x better in your pics.

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    Re: How to fix previously(poorly) repaired scratches

    I didnt attempt touching it up after removing the old touch up paint, just polished it out with Menzerna 400 like the rest of the car and all 3 scratches are hardly noticeable. Customer is super happy!How to fix previously(poorly) repaired scratches-20210225_203352-jpg

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