PPF care questions

**Ace22** · 08-26-2020, 08:32 AM

Hello all,
I have a new ride arriving in November (mythos black '21 Audi RS7), and plan on having most if not all the car wrapped with STEK dynoshield. I have tried finding answers but just thought it is muddled with unknowns.
Is there a waterless wash/rinseless wash that is safe to use regularly over this PPF? Bug/tar remover?

The manufacturer has some products, but no waterless wash/bug tar remover (I do plan on discussing with installer once my car arrives). STEK website says "Do NOT use detergents containing waxes, sealants, or silicone".
In a perfect world it would be a 2 bucket wash and rinse with blower, but time is not always on my side.

Any thoughts or input are greatly appreciated from the detailing gurus.

**TTQ B4U** · 08-26-2020, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by Ace22

Hello all,
I have a new ride arriving in November (mythos black '21 Audi RS7), and plan on having most if not all the car wrapped with STEK dynoshield. I have tried finding answers but just thought it is muddled with unknowns.
Is there a waterless wash/rinseless wash that is safe to use regularly over this PPF? Bug/tar remover?

The manufacturer has some products, but no waterless wash/bug tar remover (I do plan on discussing with installer once my car arrives). STEK website says "Do NOT use detergents containing waxes, sealants, or silicone".
In a perfect world it would be a 2 bucket wash and rinse with blower, but time is not always on my side.

Any thoughts or input are greatly appreciated from the detailing gurus.

Congrats on the new awesome ride. I miss mine. I wouldn't personally wrap a lot of the car only because you will notice it. STEK is great product but in the end you're still looking through 7 mils thick plastic and adhesive. It's a personal choice but I'd wrap the high risk areas only and save the money on the rest. I'm biased as I've had ppf on LOTS of vehicles and I've removed it too. Some will disagree, but I polish and coat prior to applying it. Won't affect the adhesion but it will aid in removal if and when needed. Then simply re-coat over it too. Follow the manufacturers instructions on the ppf though.

Care wise, understand that ppf will road-rash just like paint as it does have a clear coat layer. My audi was PURE black and looks awesome but the front clip did rash on the ppf thus why I did replace it over time. Wash wise, you don't need to do multi-bucket washes. Just one is fine and if really dirty, just rinse the sponge between wipes and go from top down. Again, YMMV there on processes but I see no issues.

**Ace22** · 08-26-2020, 10:09 AM

Thanks man, I appreciate your input as I know you are in Ohio as well and have had an Audi in the past. My other thought was instead of PPF the whole car, just do the front bumper, mirrors, rocker panels, and rear sill. Then I might just have them do the Modesta ceramic coating on the rest. I was fearful of seeing the difference between PPF and non PPF areas as well.

**TTQ B4U** · 08-26-2020, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by Ace22

Thanks man, I appreciate your input as I know you are in Ohio as well and have had an Audi in the past. My other thought was instead of PPF the whole car, just do the front bumper, mirrors, rocker panels, and rear sill. Then I might just have them do the Modesta ceramic coating on the rest. I was fearful of seeing the difference between PPF and non PPF areas as well.

Yep. Dublin Ohio area. I would and do typically PPF the front bumper, mirrors, A-Pillars, certain rocker panel areas, leading edge of roof if not glass already and the hood. I have done both entire hoods and front fenders and I've done bikini cuts. The costs will range frokm 4800 to $1,500 depending on the area covered.

**BudgetPlan1** · 08-26-2020, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by Ace22

Hello all,
I have a new ride arriving in November (mythos black '21 Audi RS7), and plan on having most if not all the car wrapped with STEK dynoshield. I have tried finding answers but just thought it is muddled with unknowns.
Is there a waterless wash/rinseless wash that is safe to use regularly over this PPF? Bug/tar remover?

The manufacturer has some products, but no waterless wash/bug tar remover (I do plan on discussing with installer once my car arrives). STEK website says "Do NOT use detergents containing waxes, sealants, or silicone".
In a perfect world it would be a 2 bucket wash and rinse with blower, but time is not always on my side.

Any thoughts or input are greatly appreciated from the detailing gurus.

We had wife's toy completely wrapped in STEK Dynoshield in April 2019. They coated it with a film-specific coating and other than that, I just maintain it with ceramic-infused sealants. I'm too ignorant (and/or scared) to do waterless/rinseless washes so can't really help ya there; when it get's past my 'threshold of acceptable appearance' out come the buckets.

**The Guz** · 08-26-2020, 10:47 AM

Any rinseless wash will work such as Mckee's N914, ONR. That statement from STEK is the prior to install or post install?

**Ace22** · 08-26-2020, 10:50 AM

Thanks Budget plan, nice article and I had actually read that and some good advice. Yes, the STEK statement is for maintenance after install.

**BudgetPlan1** · 08-26-2020, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by Ace22

Thanks Budget plan, nice article and I had actually read that and some good advice. Yes, the STEK statement is for maintenance after install.

I'd guess that's the same theory as not topping a coating w/ waxes, sealants or silicone due to the 'kinda hydrophobic coating' built into the film itself.

Originally Posted by The Guz

Any rinseless wash will work such as Mckee's N914, ONR

This.