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    Freshly painted body panels okay to apply Zaino Z2 or Collinite 845

    Hi. I would appreciate some advice.
    Having some repair work my 16 Audi A6 and some panels (hood, right fender, rear bumper) will need to be repainted.
    This car has 3 stage paint.
    How soon should I wait to apply Zaino Z2 and Collinite 845 once it returns from the body shop?
    Thanks

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    Re: Freshly painted body panels okay to apply Zaino Z2 or Collinite 845

    old school says 90 days to apply after fresh paint. If the paint has been baked on I would suggest 30 days. Old school will still say 90. Good luck

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    Re: Freshly painted body panels okay to apply Zaino Z2 or Collinite 845

    Quote Originally Posted by dudley07726 View Post
    How soon should I wait to apply
    Zaino Z2 and Collinite 845 once
    it returns from the body shop?
    Whoa! Don’t get the cart before the horse.

    Before it leaves the body shop, I’d ask
    the person(s) most responsible for the
    respray what the “wait time” actually is.


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    Re: Freshly painted body panels okay to apply Zaino Z2 or Collinite 845

    Quote Originally Posted by FUNX650 View Post


    Before it leaves the body shop, I’d ask
    the person(s) most responsible for the
    respray what the “wait time” actually is.


    Bob

    I agree. Painter knows his paint "system" best. If the paint job is warrantied - abide by his recommendation to protect the warranty.


    Besides that, I've been asked this question hundreds of times and I think I have 3-4 articles on this topic that explain the "issue" about sealing fresh paint in-depth.

    Suffice to say, there are no paint manufacturers that I know of that state or recommend to seal their freshly sprayed paint before 30 to 90 days. Usually 90 day wait time is called, Bubba-Proofing. They don't trust the unwashed masses to have a clue about taking care of paint so they figure waiting longer is better as this way the consumer won't do stupid stuff before MORE than enough time has gone by and it's safe to seal the paint.


    But I would say 30 days is a good rule of thumb.


    And just to note - at the body shop, after the car comes out of the paint booth, if there is any sanding and buffing to be done - this is done withing days or weeks, depending upon the shop, the car and the type of work. This means they are dumping liquid chemicals on the fresh paint and smushing them around with a buffer.

    So it's not that you can't use products on fresh paint - you're just not supposed to use products that act to SEAL the surface within 30/60/90 days.


    Make sense?

    And Zaino Z1 and Z2 would be considered Surface Sealers.




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    Re: Freshly painted body panels okay to apply Zaino Z2 or Collinite 845

    I will speak to the shop when I retrieve the car.
    But aren’t today’s paints different from the
    older lacquers and enamels that needed time for the solvents to release?
    Today’s paints cure quickly from a chemical reaction.

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    Re: Freshly painted body panels okay to apply Zaino Z2 or Collinite 845

    Quote Originally Posted by dudley07726 View Post
    But aren’t today’s paints different from the
    older lacquers and enamels that needed time
    for the solvents to release?

    Today’s paints cure quickly from a
    chemical reaction.
    •Technically speaking:
    -Couldn’t the release of solvents, from older
    lacquers and enamels, also be considered a
    chemical reaction?

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    Here’s your best bet for “fresh paint”:
    Quote Originally Posted by dudley07726 View Post
    I will speak to the shop when
    I retrieve the car.

    Here’s the second best bet for “fresh paint”:
    Meguiars M305 Ultra Finishing Durable Glaze 16 oz.


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    Re: Freshly painted body panels okay to apply Zaino Z2 or Collinite 845

    I recently had the hood of my Wrangler repainted. I specifically asked the body shop owner how long to wait and mentioned I had read not to wax/seal new paint. His answer was no need to wait anymore. Modern paints and clear coats don't need a waiting period anymore. I still waited 30 days just in case.

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    Re: Freshly painted body panels okay to apply Zaino Z2 or Collinite 845

    Quote Originally Posted by explorerlyon View Post
    I recently had the hood of my Wrangler repainted. I specifically asked the body shop owner how long to wait and mentioned I had read not to wax/seal new paint. His answer was no need to wait anymore. Modern paints and clear coats don't need a waiting period anymore. I still waited 30 days just in case.
    My take on this is, that, this Body Shop owner
    recognized the nuances of the specific painting
    products his Shop used on/for your vehicle’s
    respray...not as an endorsement for any or all
    other Body Shops’ painting products/nuances.


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    Re: Freshly painted body panels okay to apply Zaino Z2 or Collinite 845

    Quote Originally Posted by dudley07726 View Post
    Today’s paints cure quickly from a chemical reaction.

    Thanks to catalysts ...

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