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    A little PNS experiment coming up

    I got some Sonax PNS for Christmas (thanks wifey for wrapping the gift I bought for myself!). I’ve used it on my car, and so far I’ve been impressed. Application is a breeze, and it seems like less dust/dirt is adhering to the paint.

    So the experiment... I washed my wife’s Sienna the other day, and it looks like the year-plus old Duragloss 111 has finally given up on the vertical panels. So I clayed and applied PNS to the passenger side front door only. We have some rain coming up this week, so I wanted to see the difference in wet dirt repellence between PNS and basically unprotected. I’ll post some pics of accumulation over the next few weeks.

    Any guess on whether it will be a significant visual difference?


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    Re: A little PNS experiment coming up

    Quote Originally Posted by jdgamble View Post
    I got some Sonax PNS for Christmas (thanks wifey for wrapping the gift I bought for myself!). I’ve used it on my car, and so far I’ve been impressed. Application is a breeze, and it seems like less dust/dirt is adhering to the paint.

    So the experiment... I washed my wife’s Sienna the other day, and it looks like the year-plus old Duragloss 111 has finally given up on the vertical panels. So I clayed and applied PNS to the passenger side front door only. We have some rain coming up this week, so I wanted to see the difference in wet dirt repellence between PNS and basically unprotected. I’ll post some pics of accumulation over the next few weeks.

    Any guess on whether it will be a significant visual difference?


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    IMO not a very good test. Any protection will do better than no protection. Now if you do Duragloss 111 on one door and PNS on another, that would be a durability or even a dirt repellency test.

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    Re: A little PNS experiment coming up

    Quote Originally Posted by Rsurfer View Post
    IMO not a very good test. Any protection will do better than no protection. Now if you do Duragloss 111 on one door and PNS on another, that would be a durability or even a dirt repellency test.
    Fair point. I just want to see how effective PNS is in general. I have used a lot of liquid sealants and carnuba, and they seem to attract some dust and debris. Maybe I’ll put some Fuzion on the back door after a couple weeks.


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    Re: A little PNS experiment coming up

    Quote Originally Posted by jdgamble View Post
    So the experiment...

    I washed my wife’s Sienna the other day,
    and it looks like the year-plus old Duragloss
    111 has finally given up on the vertical panels.

    So I clayed and applied PNS to the passenger
    side front door only.

    We have some rain coming up this week,
    so I wanted to see the difference in wet
    dirt repellence between PNS and basically
    unprotected
    .

    Any guess on whether it will be a
    significant visual difference?
    My guess (based solely on the above washing
    and claying regimen) is that there will be
    no significant visual difference(s).


    TO WIT:

    Putting: ...”basically unprotected”...
    ‘under the proverbial-microscope’:

    •Depending on what product—with which
    you washed the Sienna—there actually
    could be some Duragloss 111 remaining
    on the unclayed panels; that is to say:

    -basically could still have some protection, IMO.



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    Re: A little PNS experiment coming up

    I have never used another product that repels water and dirt as well as PNS. Because of how well it works, I’ve not made the switch to ceramic coatings as of yet. Topped with BSD, I think it’s the perfect combination for me and the conditions under which I drive and maintain my car.

    This is what I’ve come to expect on the sides of my car, very little water and dirt, even in a heavy shower with dirty spray from the roads.




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    Quote Originally Posted by chinee View Post
    I have never used another product that repels water and dirt as well as PNS. Because of how well it works, I’ve not made the switch to ceramic coatings as of yet. Topped with BSD, I think it’s the perfect combination for me and the conditions under which I drive and maintain my car.

    This is what I’ve come to expect on the sides of my car, very little water and dirt, even in a heavy shower with dirty spray from the roads.




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    That’s what I like to hear. The minivan is my experimental car. The side of it take a beating, and I don’t wash it often. I would love to see one relatively clean door next to a dirty one. We’ll see in a couple weeks.

    How often do you apply PNS?


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    Re: A little PNS experiment coming up

    Quote Originally Posted by FUNX650 View Post
    My guess (based solely on the above washing
    and claying regimen) is that there will be
    no significant visual difference(s).


    TO WIT:

    Putting: ...”basically unprotected”...
    ‘under the proverbial-microscope’:

    •Depending on what product—with which
    you washed the Sienna—there actually
    could be some Duragloss 111 remaining
    on the unclayed panels; that is to say:

    -basically could still have some protection, IMO.



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    When I looked at it today, somewhat clean, I did think there might be some DG left. I think it might just have some road grime affecting the beading. We’ll see tho. I’ll post pics.


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    A little PNS experiment coming up

    Quote Originally Posted by jdgamble View Post

    How often do you apply PNS?

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    Sorry for the late response... I last applied the PNS 15 months and 15K miles ago. But my paint still looks fresh, clean and shiny; even though I tell myself it’s time for mild correction and a new coat of PNS, I have so many reasons not to:
    - like I said, the paint still looks good
    - car is garage-kept
    - silver does not readily show imperfections
    - I use BSD every few weeks, so that “freshens” the protection and repels water and dirt quite effectively.
    - I hit the hood and driver’s door with some Xxxx’s iron remover (not sold here) last week, and there was absolutely no color change except for the lower rocker panel and bottom 10% of the driver’s door, and hardly any change at that. I suspect the brake dust more than anything else.

    You know what they say... if it ain’t broke....



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    Re: A little PNS experiment coming up

    Note that unprotected paint tends to hold on to water pretty equally, so it may also dry fairly quickly. This compared to beads which are piles of water that can actually dry rather slowly (when a car sits, it obviously dries faster when the car is in motion) compared to an unprotected surface’s even, continuous distribution of water.

    But, even if the unprotected side dries as fast or faster than PNS if the car is only sitting in place, the difference should be that the unprotected surface is also sucking up the road grime equally as the water evaporates. The PNS protection should cause most grime to be trapped with in the “water piles” (beads) and mostly evaporate away except what you may eventually see as water/dirt spots, which generally wipe off pretty well. The unprotected side is likely holding on to the dirt that it holds until the paint is polished or deep cleaned.

    Sorry for my ramble, these are just my thoughts. Doesn’t mean I’m always right (just ask my wife).

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    A little PNS experiment coming up

    First pass at results... and there is a significant difference. This is after a couple days of rain.

    Here is the untreated door. Many spots.

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    Here is the PNS door. Basically no spots.

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    Call me impressed.

    I’ll keep everything as is for another couple weeks. After then next rain I’ll wash both doors and apply some good carnuba wax to the untreated door... see how that compares.


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