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    Midwest Winter Paint Protection

    I live in the upper Midwest where we can have 7 months of hard winter. What is the best option for protecting the paint and finish on my daily drivers assuming that I can wash the vehicle during the winter months but I will not be able to apply any product? I frequently wash during the winter months so would like the paint protection layer to be able to handle that as well.

    Would a wax work or do they just not last long enough? How about a paint sealant? Or a dedicated paint coating?

    Or should I lay down a layer of sealant and then wax over the top of that? Are dedicated paint coatings for more advanced detailing folks? I usually only polish daily drivers once a year, would that work with a paint coating?

    Looking for the most simple option that saves on time and $$$ but still offers good protection...?

    Thanks!

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    Re: Midwest Winter Paint Protection

    Gyeon Cancoat

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    Re: Midwest Winter Paint Protection

    Probably the best, least expensive option would be Collinite #476 Super Doublecoat Paste Wax.

    They say this is actually a hybrid product, combining both natural waxes and poly sealants combined. I've used it for many years on various vehicles, very good.

    For Plastic Trim, I'd like to recommend Wolfgang Exterior Trim Sealant (WETS)

    Others might suggest Sonax Polymer Net Sealant, (PNS) another good one that has exceptional durability short of a Ceramic Coating. Either paint products I mention should do the trick.

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    Re: Midwest Winter Paint Protection

    Quote Originally Posted by Northwoods View Post
    assuming that I can wash the
    vehicle during the winter months

    but I will not be able to apply any product?
    To me:
    Assuming that you can wash the vehicle
    during the Winter months, means to also
    assume that the ambient temperature, in
    the area where the vehicle is being washed,
    is well above the freeze-point of the car wash-
    ing (and rinsing) solutions.

    If this is the case, my question is:
    ‘Then why would you not be able to apply
    a product to the freshly cleaned vehicle?’

    Quote Originally Posted by Northwoods View Post
    Looking for the most simple option that saves
    on time and $$$ but still offers good protection...
    IMO:
    Optimum Car Wax:
    A great “Hybrid” Sealant!


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    Re: Midwest Winter Paint Protection

    Ceramic Coatings would be the most durable followed by Paint Sealants and Waxes. You could also use a product like Blackfire HydroSeal or Wolfgang Uber SiO2 Coating Wash while doing your maintenance washes during the winter months for added protection.

    Any of these products would be a great choice for winter protection -

    Blackfire, Pinnacle Black Label, Wolfgang, Optimum, McKee'37, Gyeon, CarPro, GTechniq, P&S - Ceramic Coatings
    Gyeon CanCoat
    Sonax Polymer Net Shield
    Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant
    Blackfire Paint Sealant
    Pinnacle Black Label Diamond Paint Sealant
    RejeX Paint Sealant
    McKee's 37 High-Def Paint Sealant
    Finish Kare Ultra Polymer Paint Sealant
    Jescar Power Lock +
    Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze
    Finish Kare 1000P Hi-Temp Paste Wax
    Collinite Super DoubleCoat Auto Wax #476
    Collinite Insulator Wax #845

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    Re: Midwest Winter Paint Protection

    Adding Collinite 915.

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    Re: Midwest Winter Paint Protection

    I grew up in Cleveland, Ohio and lived there into my mid to late twenties. I feel sorry for all you "car guys and girls" that still live in similar environments. During that time I worked in the autobody/painting industry and from my experience you folks are fighting a losing battle. Waxing or other topical coatings on the paint do very little to protect your car from winter conditions in the overall scheme of things.

    What I learned back then is that there is really only one way to protect your car during the winter months. And although this isn't going to be the answer you're looking for, it is the only effective answer in my opinion. Park your nice car during the months of salt and/or other chemicals on the road and drive a beater until springtime.

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    Re: Midwest Winter Paint Protection

    I’m a northeast guy and when I keep my cars protected, I’ve never had issues with permanent marks or rust. This includes living in Syracuse using Turtle Wax for years when I was young. Clean the underbody every month or two during the winter and make sure protection is always present and there shouldn’t be issues (based on my experiences).

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    Re: Midwest Winter Paint Protection

    Quote Originally Posted by 2black1s View Post
    I grew up in Cleveland, Ohio and lived there into my mid to late twenties. I feel sorry for all you "car guys and girls" that still live in similar environments. During that time I worked in the autobody/painting industry and from my experience you folks are fighting a losing battle. Waxing or other topical coatings on the paint do very little to protect your car from winter conditions in the overall scheme of things.

    What I learned back then is that there is really only one way to protect your car during the winter months. And although this isn't going to be the answer you're looking for, it is the only effective answer in my opinion. Park your nice car during the months of salt and/or other chemicals on the road and drive a beater until springtime.
    I put 10k hard, NE Ohio Winter miles on my coated car, comes out fine each Spring after a chemical decon. Run it through a touchless soap/rinse only car wash once or twice a month in the bad times, no worries. Ran w/ Collinite 915 one winter, did OK but was pretty much done by Spring. Freeway miles in winter are LSP-killers around here but a quality coating will get ya thru.

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    Re: Midwest Winter Paint Protection

    May necessary to use a spray wax or reapply LSP on lower panels if not going the coating route. I spray with something after every winter RW to ensure my protection doesn’t get too low.

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