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    Most Cut / Best Finish

    Hi all.
    I'm new to all of this and am trying to get a plan of action to clean up the paint on my black, 2010 Nissan Frontier.

    Just wondering about these 4 products. It would be great if all of you that have used all or some of them, would give a brief summation on which one has the most cut and finished better.

    The conditions are that they are all used with the same polisher and the same pads, unless different pads work better with different products.

    The 4 products are :
    Blackfire One Step
    3D HD Speed
    Sonax EX 04-06 &
    Sonax Perfect Finish

    I'm trying to get as much correction and best finish in the least amount of time, with the least effort.

    Thanks everyone in advance for your help. I definitely need it.

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    Re: Most Cut / Best Finish

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenitynow View Post
    Hi all.
    I'm new to all of this and am trying to get a plan of action to clean up the paint on my black, 2010 Nissan Frontier.

    Just wondering about these 4 products. It would be great if all of you that have used all or some of them, would give a brief summation on which one has the most cut and finished better.

    The conditions are that they are all used with the same polisher and the same pads, unless different pads work better with different products.

    The 4 products are :
    Blackfire One Step
    3D HD Speed
    Sonax EX 04-06 &
    Sonax Perfect Finish

    I'm trying to get as much correction and best finish in the least amount of time, with the least effort.

    Thanks everyone in advance for your help. I definitely need it.
    Custmsprty did a black Mercedes one step with Menzerna 400. Came out awesome. Tried to find the thread, but no luck. Maybe he will chime in.

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    Re: Most Cut / Best Finish

    2 of those products are cleaner/waxes and 2 of those products are water soluble medium cut polished.


    The cleaner/waxed will tend to finish out better because they are leaving a layer of protection behind.

    The polished will probably cut a little better because they are “dedicated “ products just for a reading paint.

    The easy way would be either of the cleaner/waxed.

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    Re: Most Cut / Best Finish

    I'd add sonax cut and finish to your list. Used it for the first time last week and I was very impressed with its cutting and finishing abilities. According to sonax its a 5/6 for cutting and 5/6 for gloss, so slightly more cut but a bit less gloss than the the 04/06 or perfect finish.

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    Re: Most Cut / Best Finish

    I might vote Wolfgang Uber Compound, being that it's a combination of both DAT and SMAT technologies.

    Wolfgang Uber Compound, car polish, polishing compound

    (Never tried Uber AIO, but again, might be a champ product getting you where you want to go.)

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    Re: Most Cut / Best Finish

    Thanks so far everyone.

    Yes. I do realize that 2 of them are " All-in- one" products. But, I have read alot of reviews stating that the 3D Speed and Blackfire have pretty good cutting ability.

    I had looked at Sonax Cut and Finish too. But, it's hard to tell the differences in their products without actually using them I guess.

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    Re: Most Cut / Best Finish

    3D Speed will cut with the right pads, but don't make the mistake of thinking it will correct a paint with a lot of swirls/RIDS.

    Always have a polish on hand with a little more "bite".
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    Re: Most Cut / Best Finish

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenitynow View Post
    Hi all.
    I'm new to all of this and am trying to get a plan of action to clean up the paint on my black, 2010 Nissan Frontier.

    Just wondering about these 4 products. It would be great if all of you that have used all or some of them, would give a brief summation on which one has the most cut and finished better.

    The conditions are that they are all used with the same polisher and the same pads, unless different pads work better with different products.

    The 4 products are :
    Blackfire One Step
    3D HD Speed
    Sonax EX 04-06 &
    Sonax Perfect Finish

    I'm trying to get as much correction and best finish in the least amount of time, with the least effort.
    Sounds like a good plan. haha

    Of those products Iíve only used 3D HD Speed and it was pretty decent. Like has already been mentioned itís not going to remove major defects, but it can easily handle light swirls and marring. Iíve read good things about Blackfire one step, but again itís an all in one, so most likely low on the cut scale. The cut of just about any product can vary depending on what pad you use, but this also changes how well it finishes out.

    You never said what condition your paint is currently in, but being almost 10 years old I would assume youíll need something stronger than an all in one to restore the paint to decent condition. If youíre just looking to clean it up and add some gloss an all in one would probably do the trick. Also, I know itís not on your list, but Iíve had great results with Menzerna FG400, (I think the name has changed now). This is a compound with good cut and finishes really well thanks to the diminishing abrasives. Basically the longer you work it, the more it breaks down and becomes more like a polish towards the end.

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    ....a compound with good cut and finishes really well thanks to the diminishing abrasives. Basically the longer you work it, the more it breaks down and becomes more like a polish towards the end.
    Griot's Fast Correcting Cream does the same I have found.
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    Re: Most Cut / Best Finish

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenitynow View Post
    Hi all.
    I'm new to all of this and am trying to get a plan of action to clean up the paint on my black, 2010 Nissan Frontier.

    Just wondering about these 4 products. It would be great if all of you that have used all or some of them, would give a brief summation on which one has the most cut and finished better.

    The conditions are that they are all used with the same polisher and the same pads, unless different pads work better with different products.

    The 4 products are :
    Blackfire One Step
    3D HD Speed
    Sonax EX 04-06 &
    Sonax Perfect Finish

    I'm trying to get as much correction and best finish in the least amount of time, with the least effort.

    Thanks everyone in advance for your help. I definitely need it.
    I have all of the products you listed and they are all solid but:

    The results I got on this Porsche with FG400 in a one step correction was amazing. It was a swirled mess and had heavy water spots too.

    I did numerous test spots with different products and pads and settled in on FG400.

    Here's the link:

    2015 Black Porsche Cayenne Correction with FG400 and Polish Angel Master Sealant
    2013 Genesis Coupe 3.8 Track Edition
    2015 Hyundai Sonata Limited, 2016 Pearl White Nissan Altima SR
    2019 Nissan Rogue SL

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