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    Ech2o leaving film used as rinseless

    So I've been using rinseless washes for many years, most of those being traditional ONR. Currently coated with Gtechniq CSL topped with EXOv4 so I wanted to try a rinseless geared towards coatings. I mixed up 2oz of Ech2o with 4gal of water in my wash bucket, and have tried it with multiple wash media. Every time I get what's best described as a "slimey" film that is almost oil'y in texture and feel. It was the worst when using the big red sponge, but still present with a microfiber wash mitt and edgeless towels. This film wipes away immediately in my first drying pass with a PFM drying towel, and the finish afterwards is flawless. I am guessing it's the Si02 in the Ech2o coating the paint? I stir up my wash solution every time I dunk into the bucket, so that isn't the issue.

    Technically it isn't a problem since it does wipe off very easily, but I just found it very odd. Does anyone else get this effect when using it as a rinseless wash? Just wanted to make sure this is normal behavior. Honestly I'm not that crazy about it and I'll probably go back to using ONR or McKee's N-914. Besides the oil'y film, the product does work really well and leaves the paint very glossy. But I think I'd rather just wipe it down after washing with either Elixr or Ech2o diluted 15:1 in a spray bottle.

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    I have never experience this issue when using Ech2o as a RW and I use the same ratio as you do. I'm wondering if it's the water qualityEch2o leaving film used as rinseless

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    Re: Ech2o leaving film used as rinseless

    Echo is tricky it very concentrated I add more water than the call for in its 3 types of washing. Try using less it’s really great product.

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    Re: Ech2o leaving film used as rinseless

    As ECH2O dries I usually have to wipe it down again. It leaves a film, but buffs off easily.

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    Re: Ech2o leaving film used as rinseless

    Quote Originally Posted by rlmccarty2000 View Post
    As ECH2O dries I usually have to wipe it down again. It leaves a film, but buffs off easily.
    Drying isn't the problem for me. It's very oil'y when I first wipe a panel with the wash media, leaving a visible film on the surface. But said film wipes away easily when drying.

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    Re: Ech2o leaving film used as rinseless

    My understanding per the videos I've watched from Carpro this is normal. Do a search on YouTube are Ech2o and watch the one from CarPro. Note in the video they are using it as a waterless wash not rinseless.

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    Re: Ech2o leaving film used as rinseless

    Quote Originally Posted by rlmccarty2000 View Post
    As ECH2O dries I usually have to wipe it down again. It leaves a film, but buffs off easily.
    Exactly this. Does this even using it as a drying aid or waterless wash.

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    Re: Ech2o leaving film used as rinseless

    I’ve always found Ech2o streaky. To me, the extra little pop of shine it leaves isn’t worth the hassle of having to do the extra buffing.

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    Always a haze with Exh2o when used as a WW, ZERO when used as a RWZEch2o leaving film used as rinselessEch2o leaving film used as rinseless

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    Re: Ech2o leaving film used as rinseless

    Quote Originally Posted by HAMBO View Post
    I’ve always found Ech2o streaky. To me, the extra little pop of shine it leaves isn’t worth the hassle of having to do the extra buffing.
    What dilution were using? Also how were you using it (ie waterless)?

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