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    Collinite 845 over PNS?

    Hi folks, can't seem to fond much info on topping up PNS. What's the consensus of topping sonax PNS with collinite? Thanks.

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    Re: Collinite 845 over PNS?

    Since both are high quality, long lasting sealants I'd pick one or the other and not worry about layering.

    I have very little experience with PNS, but everyone talks about how it behaves very much like a coating. 845, for me behaved more like a wax than a coating. If you layer 845 over PNS you would loose many of the properties which make PNS so popular.
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    Re: Collinite 845 over PNS?

    I've been watching many sealant & wax chemical torture tests carried out by Apex Detailing on YT, and when he breaks out the solvents to abuse the contestants, they usually break down pretty quickly. So, I am left wondering when we are trying to layer a wax on top of a sealant, particularly a wax loaded with heavy solvents, how much of the sealant is being removed/dissolved while trying to apply the wax?
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    Re: Collinite 845 over PNS?

    Quote Originally Posted by expdetailing View Post
    I've been watching many sealant & wax chemical torture tests carried out by Apex Detailing on YT, and when he breaks out the solvents to abuse the contestants, they usually break down pretty quickly. So, I am left wondering when we are trying to layer a wax on top of a sealant, particularly a wax loaded with heavy solvents, how much of the sealant is being removed/dissolved while trying to apply the wax?
    Yeah, apex detailing is my favorite youtube channel so far. I got into this detailing kick close to 2 mths ago.

    Very likely collinite will affect PNS in a bad way but i just read about the 3D look sometimes when layering. Thinking about giving it a try.

    Even thinking about just using collinite on my hood. Its on my hood now actually and trunk. Everything else is PNS.

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    Re: Collinite 845 over PNS?

    Having used both extensively, the only thing I would put over PNS is BSD or more PNS. The Collinite will diminish the PNS. Agree with above, stick with one or the other, don't mix.

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    Re: Collinite 845 over PNS?

    Quote Originally Posted by RPPM View Post
    Having used both extensively, the only thing I would put over PNS is BSD or more PNS. The Collinite will diminish the PNS. Agree with above, stick with one or the other, don't mix.
    Thanks, I have BSD on the way. How do you maintain PNS and collinite? Whats your average durability?

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    Re: Collinite 845 over PNS?

    Quote Originally Posted by noorth View Post
    Hi folks, can't seem to fond much info
    on topping up PNS. What's the consensus
    of topping sonax PNS with collinite? Thanks.
    •Why do you want to top PNS?
    -Are you displeased with any of
    PNS’ built-in characteristics?

    Something for your consideration:
    -Not that anything’s wrong with any of
    Collinite #845’s built-in characteristics...

    -but if you were to make Collinite #845
    “the last applied” of these two Last
    Step Products
    ...wouldn’t that result
    in the built-in characteristics of Collinite
    #845 being showcased—rather than
    those of PNS?



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    Re: Collinite 845 over PNS?

    Quote Originally Posted by FUNX650 View Post
    •Why do you want to top PNS?
    -Are you displeased with any of
    PNS’ built-in characteristics?

    Something for your consideration:
    -Not that anything’s wrong with any of
    Collinite #845’s built-in characteristics...

    -but if you were to make Collinite #845
    “the last applied” of these two Last
    Step Products
    ...wouldn’t that result
    in the built-in characteristics of Collinite
    #845 being showcased—rather than
    those of PNS?



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    Frankly, I just wanted to continue to use both since I have them and I was also interested in the 3d look I read about. My blue toyota looks pretty good now I've gotten a few compliments suprisely. Can't wait to get perfect finish going on my hood. I think I will continue to use colonite on the hood, I like the depth.

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    Re: Collinite 845 over PNS?

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    Thanks, I have BSD on the way. How do you maintain PNS and collinite? Whats your average durability?
    I would maintain Collinite 845 by keeping it clean and would typically do a post-wash wipe down with a QD or spray wax to eliminate water spots. I could get 5-ish months out of 845 in harsh winter conditions and about 6~7 months out of it during warmer/milder seasons.
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    Re: Collinite 845 over PNS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Desertnate View Post
    I would maintain Collinite 845 by keeping it clean and would typically do a post-wash wipe down with a QD or spray wax to eliminate water spots. I could get 5-ish months out of 845 in harsh winter conditions and about 6~7 months out of it during warmer/milder seasons.
    5 mths during the winter is great. However, wouldn't a spray wax also be considering layering? Even BSD, i have read is much like a wax. I'm not totally sure what QD's are made of.

    I'm just looking for a decent product that will last 4-6 mths while i learn how to polish effectively. Because i first bought the megs DA attachment and decided to jump right in and get the 15mm throw girots polisher my car is a mix of products and processes.

    Hood and trunk - megs 06 cleaner wax with the DA attachment, topped with 845.

    Doors - polished with 15mm throw using CG P40, finished with PNS.

    Bumpers, roof and quarter panels just cleaned, clayed/iron remover and PNS.

    Thanks for the replies folks.

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