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    Jeweling wax

    I would like to use one of the jeweling wax’s for the
    fine abrasive. I think the abrasive is finer than a
    finishing polish. Is this correct? However, I want to
    use Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant 3.0 over the
    jeweling wax will this work or will the wax stop the
    Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant 3.0 from adhering
    to the paint?


    This is the product I am referring to:
    Pinnacle Souveran Jeweling Wax
    Pinnacle Advanced Finishing Polish
    Thank,
    Jim

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    I think that's a very good combo. Don't worry about bonding, not a real issue.

    See my article here,


    Miscible and Immiscible - Wax and Paint Sealant Bonding


    Sheldon explaining Quantum Physics to Penny on the Big Bang Theory





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    Re: Jeweling wax

    Mike is the abrasive in the jeweling
    wax finer than that of the finishing
    polish?

    Thanks
    Jim

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    Re: Jeweling wax

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim w View Post
    Mike is the abrasive in the jeweling
    wax finer than that of the finishing
    polish?
    While you wait for Mike’s response, I’m almost positive that the abrasives in the Jeweling Wax are equivalent to the Finishing Polish.

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    Re: Jeweling wax

    acuRAS82 Thank you so much, some times it's
    just so hard to get the facts about this stuff.

    Thanks
    Jim

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    Re: Jeweling wax

    No problem, I recall discussion about this when the Jeweling Wax came out last year.

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    Re: Jeweling wax

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    I can't always get specifics for ingredients myself. But for sure the cut would be equivalent to fine cut polish, possibly an ultra fine cut polish.

    In my book, The Complete Guide to a Show Car Shine, I state that ANY brand of compound or polish could be placed into one of 4 categorizes, I think it's on page 98? I don't know, I'm working from home today after being injured at the Texas Roadshow Class and don't actually have a copy of my own book at the house.

    Here are the categories,


    1. Aggressive or Course
    2. Medium Cut
    3. Fine Cut
    4. Ultra Fine Cut



    Note: RUPES introduced their products with the above verbiage AFTER I wrote my book and I've always given them due credit for adding these words to their product label to make it easier for the unwashed masses to know what the heck was in the bottle as the flowery names they gave their products and many companies give their products don't mean anything and in my opinion are a tick on the silly side.


    But to your question, the Pinnacle Jeweling Wax would fit into the Fine Cut group for sure. You need a certain level of cutting power to remove defects while not being to aggressive to finish out AS a jeweling wax.

    For those reading this into the future I coined the term Jeweling Wax as a new category of car detailing products. Google the words Jeweling Wax Definition Mike Phillips - that would be the article and the date of that article as to where this term was added to this industry.

    And what I wrote in that article was that some cleaner/waxes, or AIOs, (same thing), work too good to be LUMPED together.

    For example, Nu Finish is a one step cleaner/wax, (technically a cleaner/sealant). But if you machine apply this product to a clear coated black car you will NOT get the same results that you will get with Pinnacle Jeweling Wax.

    Thus it's simply not right or fair to lump true jeweling waxes together with the hundreds of cleaner/waxes, AIOs and cleaner/sealants on the market.


    Make sense?



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    Re: Jeweling wax

    Also for those reading this into the future...

    Here's the link to my recent review of the new RUPES BigFoot 21 Mark III


    Review: RUPES Mark III BigFoot 21 Polisher by Mike Phillips


    I detailed this 2014 Corvette Stingray using ONLY the Pinnacle Jeweling Wax. Look at the results.


    Yancy and I shot a video and that car was in the garage for about a week. The time it was in the garage we had a lot of people visit Autogeek and as a part of visiting Autogeek often times they are given a tour that includes the garage. I had multiple people ask me,


    What ceramic coating did you use on the red Corvette?



    I would then share I used Pinnacle Jeweling Wax.


    The car looks just as good in person as it does in the pictures. Also - LOVED the newest version of the BigFoot 21. FWIW




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    Re: Jeweling wax

    Hey, Mike. Thanks for coming back. I looked
    in my book of yours In the section on
    compounds, wax, and sealers. Yes, there
    is a brake down of compound medium
    cut and finishing polish. Thanks again.


    Jim

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