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    Issues with Buff and Shine Pads

    I have two Buff and Shine pads that after one use, are depressed/indented in the center in a large spot. There’s two Lake Country pads in the back of this pic and they’re fine, as well as one other Buff and Shine pad. I made sure to rotate them to keep from overheating and cleaned them too.




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    Re: Issues with Buff and Shine Pads

    When the center of the pad collapses it’s a sign of over heating. Perhaps these 2 pads were subjected to more abuse then the other. How much liquid material was used? How many passes?

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    Re: Issues with Buff and Shine Pads

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    When the center of the pad collapses it’s a sign of over heating. Perhaps these 2 pads were subjected to more abuse then the other. How much liquid material was used? How many passes?
    I made sure to switch them out. I used two on the hood, one on top and on the trunk, one on each door.

    I made sure to prime the pad with polishing compound then added several drops around the edge. Not sure how many passes I made. It’s weird that just those two are like that as I used them all what I thought was an equal amount.

    Are they still useable?


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    Re: Issues with Buff and Shine Pads

    LC 6" Orange flat pad collapsed.

    I wouldn't use them, if they completely fail you'll have bigger issues when the backing plate touches your paint. Is this your first time polishing? If so everyone when they first start usually uses to much product which can lead to pad failure.

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    Re: Issues with Buff and Shine Pads

    Quote Originally Posted by vobro View Post
    LC 6" Orange flat pad collapsed.

    I wouldn't use them, if they completely fail you'll have bigger issues when the backing plate touches your paint. Is this your first time polishing? If so everyone when they first start usually uses to much product which can lead to pad failure.
    Yeah it’s my first time. I may have. I primed it and then put dots on the edge. I did 1/4 of the hood then added some more on the other 1/4 so maybe I did use too much


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    Re: Issues with Buff and Shine Pads

    Too much moisture within the pad makes it heat up very quickly, then the foam deforms in the center of the pad usually. You may have also been pushing down on the polisher too much creating more heat

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    Re: Issues with Buff and Shine Pads

    was your vehicle in direct sunlight and maybe the paint was hot? seems like you did all the right steps. what polish?
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    Re: Issues with Buff and Shine Pads

    Quote Originally Posted by DBAILEY View Post
    Too much moisture within the pad makes it heat up very quickly, then the foam deforms in the center of the pad usually. You may have also been pushing down on the polisher too much creating more heat
    Maybe I put too much pressure then. I didn’t think I used too much product but maybe I did that too. The others didn’t do that so I’m trying to figure out what variable changed.


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    Re: Issues with Buff and Shine Pads

    Quote Originally Posted by Belo View Post
    was your vehicle in direct sunlight and maybe the paint was hot? seems like you did all the right steps. what polish?
    No I pulled it into my garage to polish. Although temps are in the 90s now, so probably in the 80s inside with no air conditioner.

    I’m using Wolfgang Total Swirl Remover 3.0 but also used Meguiars Ultimate Compound. I probably used 6-7 oz combined of compound. It had severe scratches and swirls so I polished it one day, washed pads then did some other spots again the next day when my pads were dry. I probably needed a heavier cutting pad.


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    Re: Issues with Buff and Shine Pads

    Quote Originally Posted by vobro View Post
    LC 6" Orange flat pad collapsed.

    I wouldn't use them, if they completely fail you'll have bigger issues when the backing plate touches your paint. Is this your first time polishing? If so everyone when they first start usually uses to much product which can lead to pad failure.
    Very true.

    And good call.

    I'm not a fan of priming. The pads get saturated too quickly IMO.

    To the OP: Until you get more experience, turn off the machine after like 2 section passes and check for excess product in the center of the pad.
    Feel the center with the back of your index finger to check for excessive heat.

    Also, get yourself a pad cleaning brush. I have the Griot's brush, but there are many others. If you find buildup on the pad, use the brush to knock it off (with the machine running) and ease up on the amount of product.
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