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    Re: Brand new vehicle questions!

    Thanks all. I found a local shop that has most of the brands mentioned here. I'll stop by there Monday to discuss my options and pricing.

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    Got the prices, a little more than I was expecting, but not out of line and less than dealing with a chipped up bumper later. I'll probably do 17" of the hood/quarter panels because this will take care of most of the frontal area of the truck.

    Next question as the guy giving the quote didn't give much advice one way or the other (probably because they do coatings and he was trying to upsell me)

    Paint has some orange peel and a few swirls. Since I'm starting fresh I think I may go the coating route, but I haven't decided that yet. Do I do the correction on the truck, get the whole truck looking good, then do the PPF? Get some sort of protection down, then take the truck for the PPF? This is a new world for me. It's "only" a daily driver truck. I can't even imagine obsessing over an exotic like some of the pros here regularly work on. Actually, if I had that kind of money one of you would be taking care of this!

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    Do a light polish or leave alone. Make sure paint surface has no bonded (stuck on ) stuff on it prior to PPF. Do the PPF and later put the coating on the PPF. All vehicles have that orange peel, it is intentional to give depth.
    Enjoy it and drive it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomkirby View Post
    All vehicles have that orange peel, it is intentional to give depth.
    Iíve always thought that orange peel is caused by the position of the body panels when theyíre being painted by the machine at the factory, which is why itís more likely to occur on the vertical panels i.e. doors as opposed to the hood.

    Orange peel is intentional and gives depth? Iíve never heard that before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomkirby View Post
    All vehicles have that orange peel, it is intentional to give depth.
    Que?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomkirby View Post
    All vehicles have that orange peel, it is intentional to give depth.
    Enjoy it and drive it.

    All paint mars when washing to hide swirls....



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    From dr Beasley. First thing to pop up when googled


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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomkirby View Post
    Do a light polish or leave alone. Make sure paint surface has no bonded (stuck on ) stuff on it prior to PPF. Do the PPF and later put the coating on the PPF. All vehicles have that orange peel, it is intentional to give depth.
    Enjoy it and drive it.
    At least everyone is reading, love this group. Sadly most new cars exhibit the 'orange peel' at some point in their new fancy metallic paints. And everyone can agree that the clear coat that gives us that great shine also gives the illusion of depth. Like Coatingsarecrack found the link to what is Orange Peel effect, I have read that our modern factories are burden with keeping their workers safe and same for the air in those plants. New paints are low VOC and often applied at low pressure to minimize wasting product, it gets deeper the more I read about this. Back to creating depth, when we all know that it is an illusion of clear coat. Our eyes are fooled with the metallic filaments giving us the sparkle of many hues of our paint. Bounce that light back the clear coat and you have depth. Now allow that to happen in a very minor layer that is not perfectly flat and you add more light reflection.

    I do not like the 'orange peel' effect as I think of it as not perfect but am learning quickly that wet sanding the clear coat to get that flat over an color coat with orange peel is still being not perfect. If they could get the cars painted by the robots and dry perfectly flat then we would be compounding to remove old age clear coat and polishing it back to original shine. For example, inspect some of the new cars like I do everyday in my office parking garage. Jeep Grand Cherokee has a ruby red metallic that looks to have twice the amount of clear coat as most other vehicles. Toyota on the basic silver looks shiny all the time but look closely and it does not look at thick as the Jeep.

    Back to the original question was to applying PPF and need to remove paint imperfections such as orange peel. I say step back about 3-feet admire that beautiful Lightning Blue F150 and put down a PPF to protect it. Add your favorite wax, sealant, or a coating and just drive it.

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    Not all paints are metallic... Besides, donít they sand and buff the base coat before spraying the clear? I could be wrong, but I believe they do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thomkirby View Post
    If they could get the cars painted by the robots and dry perfectly flat
    GM recently opened up their new billion dollar factory where they paint the new Corvettes 100% defect free no orange peel from the factory. I assume Cadillacs are painted there as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldorado2k View Post
    Besides, donít they sand and buff the base coat
    before spraying the clear?
    At the OEM assembly plantsí paint kitchens?
    No.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eldorado2k View Post
    GM recently opened up their new billion
    dollar factory where they paint the new
    Corvettes 100% defect free no orange
    peel from the factory.
    Itís been greatly improved, but there is still some
    orange peel in the new Corvettesí paint finish.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eldorado2k View Post
    I assume Cadillacs are painted there as well.
    IMO, thatíd be a strange Business Model for GM
    to paint Cadillacsí body panels at Bowling Green...
    and then ship them to their model-designated
    assembly plants in Michigan; Kansas; Texas;
    Tennessee; Canada; China; and Russia.


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