Cquartz Questions

[Lawlmens]

Hey everyone, did some looking around and can't find solid answers ( may not have looked hard enough ) on these few questions.

-Can Cquartz UK 3.0 be applied to windows and plastic trim? I read yes on windows, and nothing on plastic trim but I did notice they have a coating specifically for trim.

-When applying UK 3.0 is IronX a must have?

-After UK 3.0 is applied, does GLISS make that much of a hydrophobic difference / gloss on top to buy it?

-GLISS is basically a better version of reload, longer, more durable, better hydrophobic properties, correct?

[TTQ B4U]

Hey everyone, did some looking around and can't find solid answers ( may not have looked hard enough ) on these few questions.

-Can Cquartz UK 3.0 be applied to windows and plastic trim? I read yes on windows, and nothing on plastic trim but I did notice they have a coating specifically for trim.

-When applying UK 3.0 is IronX a must have?

-After UK 3.0 is applied, does GLISS make that much of a hydrophobic difference / gloss on top to buy it?

-GLISS is basically a better version of reload, longer, more durable, better hydrophobic properties, correct?

You can apply it to glass but I wouldn't do glass that has wipers such as windshields and tailgates. They will shudder and jump eventually. That said, I don't use it on glass as it's expensive and McKee's 37 is an excellent glass coating dedicated to it's purpose.

In terms of plastic trim, yes you can use it, but the dedicated trim products that are coatings do a better job in terms of keeping the trim dark and fresh looking.

IronX isn't a "must" but I do make it a point to do a test-section to see if the vehicle has loads of fall out on it. Usually the tail areas or rear quarter panels.

Gliss doesn't make it more hydrophobic (not IMO and experience) but rather more slick feeling overall. It's main purpose is to provide a bit more protection from spotting. I sell it as a good upgrade should the vehicle not live in a garage.

Gliss is a completely different product than reload. Yes to all your points but if you're looking for an insane hydrophobic move to GYEON's Syncro Kit. Skin is their version of Gliss and night and day in terms of shedding water. I've used both and currently my vehicles are wearing GYEON. Wife's has Syncro, mine has PURE with Skin over it.

Hope my input is helpful.

[Lawlmens]

Thanks for the input, if you dont mind either posting here or PM'ing me, could you shed some light on GYEON's prodcuts? Also, on Mckees, which product do you use to coat glass?

[Coatingsarecrack]

You can look up just by searching but reading on forum skin has longevity problems and Mohs people seam to not love by itself. I’ve read Gyeon cancoat better option. I’m going to use 2 layers of cquk3 but if you really wanna top it original cqurtz 110 seams to be popular. I plan on using cancoat every 6 months or so to refresh myself. Again this info was gained on forums (spent a lot of hours researching) and haven’t actually applied yet.


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[The Guz]

Hey everyone, did some looking around and can't find solid answers ( may not have looked hard enough ) on these few questions.

-Can Cquartz UK 3.0 be applied to windows and plastic trim? I read yes on windows, and nothing on plastic trim but I did notice they have a coating specifically for trim.

I would stick with a coating meant for glass rather than CQUK 3.0. It would probably be fine but as mentioned a trim coating would look better.

-When applying UK 3.0 is IronX a must have?

It is not necessary to use ironx. But it does help to remove the ferrous material that is embedded deeper into the paint.

-After UK 3.0 is applied, does GLISS make that much of a hydrophobic difference / gloss on top to buy it?

Gliss is not going to add additional hydrophobics. V1 retained the 110 degree contact angle. Gloss is negligible as well. V2 looks like it is now 115 degree contact angle.

Pulled from CarPro US

Features:

Slick and Hyper smooth
Easy to use!
Industry leading sliding angle!
Also works great as a stand-alone nano-coat!
Anti-static: Non-oily / resists dust retention
Adds thickness to your existing coat when used as a top coat
Enhances resistance to water spots and mineral stains
Extreme Hydrophobic affect
Enhances Gloss and life of any ceramic coating


Specifications:

Durability: 12 Months +/-
Coverage: 20ml per coat +/-
Water contact angle: 115°
Recommended working temperatures: 50F to 90F

CarPro GLISS Frequently Asked Questions:

Q. What does Gliss means?

A. Gliss in French means very slick surface.

Q. Does Gliss perform as sealant or a coating?

A. It is a lighter version of the CQuartz coatings

Q. Can it be used on top of Reload, Essence Extreme, or Essence Plus?

A. No since they will not allow the coating to bond to the surface.

Q. Can you use it as stand alone coat?

A. Yes its very easy to use and will bond well on bare paint.

Q. Do you need to use Eraser pre coat?

A. Yes to ensure the surface is free of any oils that will prevent the coating from bonding. If a wax or sealant has been previously applied to the surface they will need to be stripped as Eraser will not remove them.

Q. Can we use CQuartz on top of Gliss?

A. No

Q. Can Gliss be applied over a previously coated car which was done a few months ago?

A. Yes

Q. Is there a time that you should not apply Gliss on top of a CQuartz coating?

A. There is a time at which GLISS is not going to bond as well to a weathered coating. The exact point at which that happens is impossible to say due to all the variables involved and the impossibility of testing each one. What I CAN say is that we tested it on top of a 2-month-old coating with good results and it seems to have bonded well. The prep we would recommend for an aged coating if you are not polishing is as follows:



1. Wash with CarPro Reset
2. Rinse
3. Decontaminate with CarPro Iron X
4. Rinse
5. Use CarPro Spotless (if needed)
6. Give one final wash again with CarPro Reset
7. Rinse and Dry
8. Wipe down with CarPro Eraser
9. Coat



Q. Does it crystallize like the CQuartz coatings?

A. No, it is not meant to add hardness. The main purpose was to add protection from water spots as high content Sio2 based coatings weak point is water spots.

Q. Can we top the Gliss with Reload?

A. Yes but it is not necessary. However if you choose to do so Reload can be applied after 12 hrs.

Q. Does Gliss attract dust over the surface?

A. Gliss uses inorganic oils to produce slickness, together with it's anti-static properties it will attract much less dust than most ceramic coatings or top coats.

Q. How many cars we can coat with a 30ml bottle?

A. 1 average sized car or pick up truck per 30ml bottle (20 ml +/- per coat)

Q. Can I use TarX on the Gliss?

A. No, only for a small quick spot treatment

Q. How long will the durability last?

A. We believe up to 12 months, if well maintained with CarPro Reset.

Q. Can I use Gliss on top of protection film (PPF)?

A. Yes, it will bond well and become hydrophobic. We recommend testing in an inconspicuous area first since there are many different types of PPF.

Q. My coating is a few months old and I want to apply Gliss but Reload has already been applied over the coating, can I still use Gliss?

A. No, as Reload will not allow the coating to bond to the paint but if you still want to apply Gliss than the process would be as follows:

Wash with CarPro Reset
Decontaminate with Iron X if necessary
Use CarPro Tar X (this will pull the oils out of Reload that will prevent Gliss from bonding. Use in shade, do not allow to dwell, and be careful around sensitive plastics)
a. Spray and wipe in Tar X into panel with microfiber and immediately neutralize the Tar X by either rewashing the panel or using a waterless wash such as CarPro Ech2o (Make sure to neutralize Tar X before moving onto next panel)
Give it one more good wash with CarPro Reset
Wipe down with CarPro Eraser
Gliss application *If applying over an old coating there is a possibility Gliss may haze up the next day and you can see the application marks. If this happens wiping down the vehicle with CarPro Ech2o or a damp microfiber will remove it.*
If you choose to apply Reload over Gliss than you must wait a minimum of 12 hrs to allow Gliss to cure.

Q. Will this work over other coatings or CQuartz coatings only?

A. We haven’t tested it on other coatings but it will work on some of them or in replacement of some of them.

Q. How glossy and slick is it compared to CQUARTZ coatings?

A. Much more slick than CQuartz. Gloss will come mostly from polishing but it is slightly glossier than CQ by itself.

Q. So... if I understand correctly, THIS is a coating for coatings. If my car were coated in CQUK or regular CQuartz, I would apply GLISS over the CQuartz UK to increase the slickness feel? I was under the understanding that the point of coatings was we didn’t have to put anything on top of it? Please advise, I’m confused??

A1. - That’s correct, you do NOT need to apply this on top of your CQuartz. You could continue on with Reset washes regularly, and occasionally decontaminating with Iron X and if you like Reload or Hydrofoam too (IF you want).

A2. - GLISS can be applied a few hours after coating to provide a slicker surface which coatings lack and to assist in water spot resistance but again these are choices- not necessities

A3. - You could ALSO use GLISS by itself instead of a coating for someone afraid of using a heavy duty coating like UK, they could use GLISS as it is VERY visible when it’s ready to wipe off etc.

-GLISS is basically a better version of reload, longer, more durable, better hydrophobic properties, correct?

As mentioned they are different products. Gliss is essentially a coating where as Reload is a maintenance spray sealant. See the above info that I posted.

You can look up just by searching but reading on forum skin has longevity problems and Mohs people seam to not love by itself. I’ve read Gyeon cancoat better option. I’m going to use 2 layers of cquk3 but if you really wanna top it original cqurtz 110 seams to be popular. I plan on using cancoat every 6 months or so to refresh myself. Again this info was gained on forums (spent a lot of hours researching) and haven’t actually applied yet.


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Yeah I have had Gyeon Syncro for 1 year now and I have been disappointing in it's overall performance. I am about to polish it off and move onto something else. The initial performance from Skin is great but its performance drops off around the 5-6 month mark which is rather disappointing. It had started to fail in a couple areas at the 7 month mark and at the 10 month mark water was sticking to the paint and the beading was lack luster. A decon wash did nothing to it. It is too bad because it is going to need something like Cure but that takes away from the 120 degree contact angle of Skin. Or Skin has to be applied but if that is the case then might as well re-coat.

As you mentioned the water behavior of Mohs is not the most exciting. It definitely needs a topper. CQUK 3.0 does not need to be topped as it performs pretty well on it's own.

Between the two options I would choose CQUK 3.0 over Syncro any day of the week. The price of Syncro is not worth it based on my experience with it.

CanCoat is a great product and I find that to be Gyeon's top coating product and it is not even a full coating. Pair it with Gyeon Primer Polish and it will net you about a years worth of performance. This combo gave me 15 months and the sides were still going but the flat surfaces were starting to degrade.

[TTQ B4U]

Thanks for the input, if you dont mind either posting here or PM'ing me, could you shed some light on GYEON's prodcuts? Also, on Mckees, which product do you use to coat glass?

You have PM. Glass wise I use McKee's Glass Coating. I've tried 4 or 5 and have found theirs is by far the easiest to apply and functions as good as the others. I've also found that it plays well with many / most wiper blade compounds. Others have been known to cause chatter but I've not seen that with McKee's.

Coating wise, in addition to what I've PM'd you about, I've also used and work with 22PLe too.

[TTQ B4U]

Yeah I have had Gyeon Syncro for 1 year now and I have been disappointing in it's overall performance. I am about to polish it off and move onto something else. The initial performance from Skin is great but its performance drops off around the 5-6 month mark which is rather disappointing. It had started to fail in a couple areas at the 7 month mark and at the 10 month mark water was sticking to the paint and the beading was lack luster. A decon wash did nothing to it. It is too bad because it is going to need something like Cure but that takes away from the 120 degree contact angle of Skin. Or Skin has to be applied but if that is the case then might as well re-coat.

I wonder if it's the sun/heat out west. My wife's Syncro is going like Day 1 (8 months now) and 12k miles ago on her daily driver.

As you mentioned the water behavior of Mohs is not the most exciting. It definitely needs a topper. CQUK 3.0 does not need to be topped as it performs pretty well on it's own.

Agree. I sell Mohs with CanCoat as a topper for less than Syncro as part of one of my offerings. Works great on softer Japanese imports which is what I target with this combo.

CanCoat is a great product and I find that to be Gyeon's top coating product and it is not even a full coating. Pair it with Gyeon Primer Polish and it will net you about a years worth of performance. This combo gave me 15 months and the sides were still going but the flat surfaces were starting to degrade.

I've been selling CanCoat as an upgrade from a synthetic sealant/wax where a customer doesn't want to pay for a full coating. They are more than pleasantly surprised. I love calling them to follow up and always ask what they saw when in rain or washing it for the first time

[The Guz]

I wonder if it's the sun/heat out west. My wife's Syncro is going like Day 1 (8 months now) and 12k miles ago on her daily driver.

I've been selling CanCoat as an upgrade from a synthetic sealant/wax where a customer doesn't want to pay for a full coating. They are more than pleasantly surprised. I love calling them to follow up and always ask what they saw when in rain or washing it for the first time

Could be degraded by UV considering the car does sit outside 24/7. I had high hopes for Syncro but alas it is not a coating I would pick up again as I find it to not be worth the price based on the performance I experienced.

CanCoat for me has exceeded all expectations and will continue to be in my arsenal. The water behavior is nice along with the distinct look it leaves.