Modern Alternative to Klasse AIO + SG?

[dlc95]

Do you think Fast Finish has enough durability on its own? My Klasse routine was to apply the combo once in the spring and once in the fall.

Not sure yet.

I usually use Duragloss 111 over the winter.

[dlc95]

•Here are just a few Sealant-based AIOs
that may not be considered as being modern;
but, IMO, they are still Worldly-wise:
“with-it”, so to say.


-Poorboy's Polish with Sealant

-Optimum Poli-Seal

-Finish Kare 215 One Step Cleaner
& Surface Sealant


Bob

I'd like to add both Duragloss 501, and 101 to that list.

[PaulMys]

Everything suggested above is top notch.

Let the newbie head spin begin....... Lol

[dlc95]

Everything suggested above is top notch.

Let the newbie head spin begin....... Lol

The rabbit hole is before him!

[synkro]

Not a total newbie, just new to the forums. Though I've done enough research to make my head spin.

I think in the past I relied too much on Klasse AIO for cleaning, when really I should have been using more chemical decontamination. Tar and industrial fallout are my main enemy. If I use more chemical decon (in addition to claying, which I've always done) then I shouldn't need an AIO to pick up the rest.

I'd probably keep using Meg's UFF in any case just because it's insanely easy to apply.

[MattPersman]

UFF is great especially for the $ and ease of use. I wouldn’t be afraid to try to push it for many months.

There is no modern Klasse. They all apply that same way if they are the same type of product.

You need to figure out your wants. Way easier to use a paint cleaner like megs cleaner wax each 6 months then UFF as needed for actual protection




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[synkro]

I don't think I need a cleaner product like Klasse AIO if I improve my decon routine.

How does Meg's 2116 compare to what's been mentioned?

[dlc95]

I don't think I need a cleaner product like Klasse AIO if I improve my decon routine.

How does Meg's 2116 compare to what's been mentioned?

M21 is another favorite.

I remember reading a post by Michael Stoops of Meguiar's.

Someone was asking how their (now discontinued) Paint Protect compared to M21.

He said that "..initially, M21 will offer more durability, but the Paint Protect would bead longer.." or something to that effect, if that makes any sense.

Concerning UFF? I don't know first hand.

[RZJZA80]

I don't think there's any real replacement for the Klasse twins and what they have to offer. The closest thing I can think of would be DG 105/601. They both have cleaning abilities and both last a year for me on daily drivers.

[The Guz]

Not a total newbie, just new to the forums. Though I've done enough research to make my head spin.

I think in the past I relied too much on Klasse AIO for cleaning, when really I should have been using more chemical decontamination. Tar and industrial fallout are my main enemy. If I use more chemical decon (in addition to claying, which I've always done) then I shouldn't need an AIO to pick up the rest.

I'd probably keep using Meg's UFF in any case just because it's insanely easy to apply.

This is a yes and no. A chemical decon will only remove so much so the paint will still need a mechanical decon if the surface feels like it needs it. But in general polishing at least once a year not only removes paint defects but it cleans up the paint while imparting that gloss. In saying that find yourself a polish and then find yourself a sealant and call it a day.

I don't think I need a cleaner product like Klasse AIO if I improve my decon routine.

How does Meg's 2116 compare to what's been mentioned?

I mentioned the paint cleaner up above. M21 is comparable in that it is a sealant like KSG. It is also much easier to use than KSG. Longevity and durability are fairly close. M21 would make a fine sealant to go with. If you prefer to pick something up locally that is available to you then you have the option of Meguiar's Ultimate Wax or Ultimate Fast Finish. Both will get you about the same durability with the ease of application going to fast finish and the looks going to ultimate wax.

Over on the Meguiar's forum it has been mentioned by the Meguiar's reps that a base layer of ultimate wax followed by fast finish works well.

You will get many recommendations to products and in the end you will have to decide for yourself on which route to go.