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    Re: What did you do today, in regards to detailing?

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    Did a waterless wash today just because I was bored, made the mistake of mixing up some ech2o to get the job done.

    Thereís not words that exist in the English language to properly describe how much I hate this garbage tier product.

    It is a streaky disgusting mess that requires just enough extra effort to dry that panel, and I have no idea how thatís tolerated with the alternatives that currently exist on the market.

    It destroys the beading of whatever LSP I have on my paint, and it never recovers from a wash with ech2o.

    Really just a poor user experience and end result. I absolutely hate this stuff. The rest of my 32oz bottle is snaking itís way down the drain as I finish up this post.


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    Interesting. I've never used it as a WW so I can't really speak on that but as a RW it's excellent. Makes a solid detail spray/drying aid too.

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    Re: What did you do today, in regards to detailing?

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    Interesting. I've never used it as a WW so I can't really speak on that but as a RW it's excellent. Makes a solid detail spray/drying aid too.

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    I was incredibly agitated earlier, so I was primed to take it out on that poor bottle. My ac is broken so Iím coming home from working in boiler rooms to a house thatís 85 degrees. Itís been a long week.

    I have tried a lot to use it though, detail spray, mixed with reload, waterless/rinseless. The biggest deal breaker for me is the extra effort required to buff it off a panel. I just really donít have time for that.

    That irritation is followed closely by it never leaving my windows streak free no matter how many towels I use to wipe them down. I have to follow it up with glass cleaner to get rid of the steaks, which is no good.

    I can only imagine the humidity here plays a part. It was 92% today, but it averages around 75-85% lately.

    I will say thats itís the slickest/snottiest product Iíve ever used, so it feels well lubricated when I use it. For my environment and purposes though, d156, griots rinseless wash and wax diluted as a detail spray, n914, wolfgang Uber, they all do the job without fighting me.




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    Re: What did you do today, in regards to detailing?

    finick, hope you get the AC fixed soon!

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    Re: What did you do today, in regards to detailing?

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    I was incredibly agitated earlier, so I was primed to take it out on that poor bottle. My ac is broken so Iím coming home from working in boiler rooms to a house thatís 85 degrees. Itís been a long week.

    I have tried a lot to use it though, detail spray, mixed with reload, waterless/rinseless. The biggest deal breaker for me is the extra effort required to buff it off a panel. I just really donít have time for that.

    That irritation is followed closely by it never leaving my windows streak free no matter how many towels I use to wipe them down. I have to follow it up with glass cleaner to get rid of the steaks, which is no good.

    I can only imagine the humidity here plays a part. It was 92% today, but it averages around 75-85% lately.

    I will say thats itís the slickest/snottiest product Iíve ever used, so it feels well lubricated when I use it. For my environment and purposes though, d156, griots rinseless wash and wax diluted as a detail spray, n914, wolfgang Uber, they all do the job without fighting me.




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    Understand completely with the AC issue. Mine went out last summer during the hottest stretch of the year.

    Like I said I've never used it was a WW because N 914 is soooo good in that regard but I love it for RW. When it comes to RW I don't have an issue buffing it off BUT when using it as a detail spray or drying aid it can be finicky if I spray it on the panel. Does better when I spray it into the towel and go that route. So I can definitely understand why it would be a bit too much work as a WW.

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    Re: What did you do today, in regards to detailing?

    So did you really dump it down the drain


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    Re: What did you do today, in regards to detailing?

    So I'm back home in the D for a long overdue visit, inparticular my buddy John and his g/f had a baby 9 months ago, yesterday was the first time seeing her...cute! Anywho, after getting back from Mesa Tacos and Tequila in Royal Oak Michigan we got back to his house and parked the M5, a 2000 M5! This car is driven, it's his dream car but when I got there and saw its condition I had to jump into action.

    Now I always carry enough to do a single WW on the car, 1000 ML of N914 and always plenty of towels. So there were birdbombs, the tires and wheels were dirty and the car was very dirty, so I got after it! Upon starting on the roof I knew this wasn't going to be what I was used to, that's for sure! Just doing half the roof my square on the towel was BLACK!! I used a total of 6 towels on this car and an additional one for a final buff and another for the tires/wheels.

    Once done with the car I turned my attention to the tires/wheels. I have my IK 1.5 filled with P&S Brake Buster @3:1 and thank God I did too! I did a double foam and let it dwell, no Speed Master to use this day. Upon rinsing it did a very good job but a light "haze" of dirt was left over, I could see it through the water but upon drying the tires/wheels it was all good. I dressed the tires with Gyeon Tire Express and they came out great!

    I told my buddy he needs to plunk down a grand and have the paint corrected and then coated with the very best the shop has to offer. I would do it but I need the time and a Garage, he has 2 cars on his garage right now, so that's out, plus with the car being 19 years old I'm not sure about the paint thickness and I wouldn't wanna mess it up, this is dream car but I think he would trust me nonetheless. He wants EVERYTHING done to this car and he knows where to take it locally but its going to cost him especially when he says interior and engine bay, those ANDS add upWhat did you do today, in regards to detailing?What did you do today, in regards to detailing?What did you do today, in regards to detailing?

    So here's the pics of my mercy N914 WW, later on today I'll be at Derek0609's house and my car will be cleaned up for C&C Saturdsy morning. He'll get to drive my car and finally I get to drive the STINGER, stay "tuned"



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    Re: What did you do today, in regards to detailing?

    Did my first waterless wash ever today. Used my new Griots waterless and finished up with Griots spray wax. Not sure I love the waterless vs. rinseless. You have to use a LOT of waterless to make sure the car and microfiber are lubricated enough. Good for a fast wash I guess, but I think I'll be sticking to rinseless for the most part. I can see using waterless more in the cold months when you just want to get it washed ASAP.

    Also humidity sucks in the morning when you're trying to dry your car!

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    Re: What did you do today, in regards to detailing?

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    Did my first waterless wash ever today. Used my new Griots waterless and finished up with Griots spray wax. Not sure I love the waterless vs. rinseless. You have to use a LOT of waterless to make sure the car and microfiber are lubricated enough. Good for a fast wash I guess, but I think I'll be sticking to rinseless for the most part. I can see using waterless more in the cold months when you just want to get it washed ASAP.

    Also humidity sucks in the morning when you're trying to dry your car!

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    I've never used Griot's Garage Brillant finish RW as a WW before but it's one of the best RW's for sure! That said, if you wanna try a great WW try Mckee's N914 and don't worry, its VERY safe. I usually make it a little stronger anyways, I'd be curious to hear how you like it if you decide to try it. In closing, CarPro Ech2o is the best dual purpose RW/WW product on the market IMO. its extremely concentrated so 7:1-10:1 for WW works best but even at 7:1 you'll probably have to buff to perfection but the benefit is a truely spectacular finish with real protection left behind that works well with coated vehicles, N914 and Griot's Garage Brillant finish are PURE cleaners, also very safe on coated carsWhat did you do today, in regards to detailing?What did you do today, in regards to detailing?

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    Re: What did you do today, in regards to detailing?

    Funny thing happened last night...my daughterís boyfriend came over and he parked in the middle of the driveway, which he never does! He has a 14-15 (I think) black Mercedes C250 that is full of swirls throughout the car. I've been threatening to wash it since it was so dirty and nasty!!



    Given the time he came over, which was around 6:45-7:00, I decided it was time to at least wash the damn thing which led to a partial detail since I didn't have much sunlight left! Well one thing led to another and by 9:15pm I had washed, decontaminated the horizontal surfaces, Blackfire Clay Mitt on the hood, cleaned the wheels and tires with Meguiar's Ultimate Wheel Cleaner and Hot Shine, applied Jay Leno Wax to most of the car except for the Hood and Trunk Lid (its been sitting on the shelf for a looong time and this was a perfect application to get rid of it!)....for the Hood and Trunk Lid...I decided to polish it with Blackfire One Step AIO using my HF DA with LC Orange Pads (4 pads for hood and trunk)! I finally finished at 9:15 and I was quite impressed with the cutting power of BF One Step with a LC Orange Pad!!

    Unfortunately I do not have any after pics since it was so dark and I was working with the scangrip light but I did have a few pics of the hood and trunk showing the corrections.

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    Full Hood finished


    Couple of deep scratches I could not get rid of...at this point

    Trunk...it was completely dark by the time I got to the trunk





    This was impromptu cleaning with zero prep time...it was a mad dash!!

    Jay


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    Re: What did you do today, in regards to detailing?

    Don't let the picture fool you...lots of dead bugs on the front from the trip and lots of dust. The driveway is at the Derek0606 Compound and we'll be doing a TW Ice snow foam foam pre-wash and 2BM wash pretty soon, along with a P&S Brake Buster tire and wheel cleaning, stay "tuned".

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