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    Unhappy Help: Can't take advantage of durable waxes/sealants due to dirty paint

    I'm dealing with single-stage white paint that gets visibly dirty after a month or so. It's a daily driver that gets a two-bucket OR waterless wash followed by a spray wax every week. A paint cleaner fixes the problem easily (see pic below), but then I have to wax/sealant again. But this is not cost effective. The waxes/sealants I use can last from 3-6 months, but I am forced to apply them every month, unless I don't care for a "dingy, gray finish":



    Thus, is there a way to protect single-stage white paint so that it doesn't get dirty so quickly? Or, is there a special kind of product (except coatings) that prevents this kind of dirt buildup?

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    Re: Help: Can't take advantage of durable waxes/sealants due to dirty paint

    Quote Originally Posted by CarefulCleaner View Post
    I'm dealing with single-stage white paint that gets visibly dirty after a month or so. It's a daily driver that gets a two-bucket OR waterless wash followed by a spray wax every week. A paint cleaner fixes the problem easily (see pic below), but then I have to wax/sealant again. But this is not cost effective. The waxes/sealants I use can last from 3-6 months, but I am forced to apply them every month, unless I don't care for a "dingy, gray finish":



    Thus, is there a way to protect single-stage white paint so that it doesn't get dirty so quickly? Or, is there a special kind of product (except coatings) that prevents this kind of dirt buildup?
    Quit using the spray wax after every wash.. See what happens.

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    Re: Help: Can't take advantage of durable waxes/sealants due to dirty paint

    Quote Originally Posted by Eldorado2k View Post
    Quit using the spray wax after every wash.. See what happens.
    Is the spray wax the culprit? Interesting, I'll give it a try, thanks.

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    Re: Help: Can't take advantage of durable waxes/sealants due to dirty paint

    Quote Originally Posted by CarefulCleaner View Post
    Is the spray wax the culprit? Interesting, I'll give it a try, thanks.
    IMO there’s a possibility that the spray wax is removing/replacing the sealant you’ve layed down and leaving you with only the spray wax to protect the paint, which leaves you with inferior protection than you initially had.

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    Re: Help: Can't take advantage of durable waxes/sealants due to dirty paint

    Quote Originally Posted by Eldorado2k View Post
    IMO there’s a possibility that the spray wax is removing/replacing the sealant you’ve layed down and leaving you with only the spray wax to protect the paint, which leaves you with inferior protection than you initially had.
    I guess I made the false assumption that everything just layered on top of another. I've been using D156 by the way.

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    Re: Help: Can't take advantage of durable waxes/sealants due to dirty paint

    I’m not sure anyone knows the answer for sure (how certain spray waxes react with certain lsps), but try Eldo’s suggestion and if possible, please report back. I’m interested in the results.

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    Re: Help: Can't take advantage of durable waxes/sealants due to dirty paint

    That's crazy I would expect paint to look like that after two years of hard use. What sealant are you using? And do you live near construction or something industrial?

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    Re: Help: Can't take advantage of durable waxes/sealants due to dirty paint

    Quote Originally Posted by acuRAS82 View Post
    I’m not sure anyone knows the answer for sure (how certain spray waxes react with certain lsps), but try Eldo’s suggestion and if possible, please report back. I’m interested in the results.
    I skipped the spray wax this week already and will continue to note if there are any improvements.

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    That's crazy I would expect paint to look like that after two years of hard use. What sealant are you using? And do you live near construction or something industrial?
    I'm using Meguiar's Ultimate Paste Wax, which is why I thought using another product from Meguiar's, the D156 spray wax, would "synergize" well with its sister product. I don't live near anything that would produce an excessive amount of fallout, so I'm bewildered by the situation, too. Based on Mike's article, my best guess is that white, especially single-stage, paint is just difficult to maintain.

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    Re: Help: Can't take advantage of durable waxes/sealants due to dirty paint

    Quote Originally Posted by CarefulCleaner View Post
    I'm using Meguiar's Ultimate Paste Wax, which is why I thought using another product from Meguiar's, the D156 spray wax, would "synergize" well with its sister product.
    I do think this too, and don’t want to believe that UQW would remove something below it to the extent of killing it so quickly, which is why I’m interested in your results. Thanks for checking back in!

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    Re: Help: Can't take advantage of durable waxes/sealants due to dirty paint

    Your vehicle and situation sounds like a perfect candidate for an All-In-One product to me. Quit using the separate cleaner/polish/sealant products and processes and replace with a one-step cleaner wax.

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