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    Add "only" hydrophobic property to my paint?

    I am currently running with Optimum Synthetic Spray Wax on my new car. The front end is protected with Suntek Ultra. After reading ad nauseam about ceramic coatings and their reload products, I settled for my old school OSW. My question for the forum is are there good options for adding just hydrophobic action? Ideally on top of my OSW... I noticed that all the ceramic coatings tend to lose their hydrophobic qualities first and then people add that back via some product. I just want more hydrophobic action only. I recently tried using my OSW as a drying agent while I was drying it and felt like I was buffing more than I prefer and worry drying with too much effort will give me swirls... Any ideas?

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    Re: Add "only" hydrophobic property to my paint?

    Quote Originally Posted by Insaneoctane View Post
    I am currently running with Optimum
    Synthetic Spray Wax on my new car.

    ...are there good options for adding
    just hydrophobic action? Ideally on
    top of my OSW...

    I just want more hydrophobic action only.

    I recently tried using my OSW as a drying
    agent while I was drying it and felt like I
    was buffing more than I prefer and worry
    drying with too much effort will give me swirls...

    Any ideas?


    Use Optimum’s Opti-Seal for your
    “drying aid”—(as well as for several
    other detailing tasks).

    [However, (and knowing full well that you
    only want more hydrophobic action), I feel
    I would be amiss if I didn’t add a few words
    of “Caution”: Opti-Seal will also provide some
    (additional) protection. Drats!?!?]





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    Re: Add "only" hydrophobic property to my paint?

    Sonax Brilliant Shine Detailer is a QD that leaves a very hydrophobic surface. Some don't like it cause it leaves a little grabby feel when you touch your paint. IME it don't interfear with the washing and drying and just when you touch it with your hands it's not that slick feeling. Still it's leaves a great aggressive water behavior and self cleaning ability from it. And it leaves protection behind and a crispy look from it. I prefer to apply it on dry paint but can be used as a drying aid too. A little product goes a long way. 2 sprays on the bigger panels and 1 spray on the smaller panels.

    Then you have the ceramic toppers that leaves a very hydrophobic surface. Gyeon Cure and Carpro reload and gtechnic c2v3 and McKees 37 Extended Spray Wax. And alot of others both with sealants ability in longevity part. Spray on rinse off coating topper.

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    Re: Add "only" hydrophobic property to my paint?

    I am not a fan at all of OptiSeal as a drying aid. Far too streaky IMO. It's better applied in my experience after the car is dry, one spray per panel (two on larger ones) with a MF towel to distribute and buff. It's probably the most compatible product as FUNX650 alluded to.


    Any spray sealant will fit this bill really. Just be aware that the more beading ability it has, the more likely it is to water spot if the car is a bit dirty/dusty especially with pollen. Some examples:

    -Gtechniq C2V3
    -Gyeon Cure
    -Carpro Reload
    -CG v07 (if you feel like reapplying every week)

    I've also heard good things about P&S Beadmaker but haven't tried it myself.


    A better option honestly would be something like Mckee's Hydro Blue, Gyeon Wet Coat, or Sonax Spray N Seal but that would potentially negate the optimum wax you're using.
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    Re: Add "only" hydrophobic property to my paint?

    Opti-Seal
    Duragloss Aquawax
    Meguiar's Ultimate Fast Finish

    Out of all the above, Duragloss Aquawax is the slickest, and beads like crazy.

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    Re: Add "only" hydrophobic property to my paint?

    +1 for Sonax Brilliant Shine Detailer

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    Re: Add "only" hydrophobic property to my paint?

    Quote Originally Posted by acuRAS82 View Post
    +1 for Sonax Brilliant Shine Detailer
    Guys in the Burgh think alike

    I also like their new spray sealer also...

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    Re: Add "only" hydrophobic property to my paint?

    Thanks for the inputs....
    I noticed the Duragloss aquawax is significantly cheaper per oz. than the opti seal. I would be lying if I didnt admit that helps. The comments about how opti seal can be streaky are a turn off (even though I love Optimum products). Would DAW be a decently compatible product on top of my OSW? I already have a gallon of OSW, and like it, so if I can add hydrophobosity with just a topper, that's great! Is it one of the easier sealants to apply?

    PS- which would give better water action, Sonax or Duragloss?

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    Re: Add "only" hydrophobic property to my paint?

    Its only streaky in my experience when used as a drying aid. When used normally I love it.


    Are you not getting water beading with Optimum Car Wax?
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    Re: Add "only" hydrophobic property to my paint?

    Take a look a Ultima Acrylic Spray Wax--very slick, very hydrophobic and lasts longer than OCW.

    Ultima Acrylic Spray Wax

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