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    Layering sealant

    I detailed my car over the weekend.

    I applied a cost of Klasse sealant on Saturday, and on Sunday I applied another coat.

    I noticed that first coat of sealant wasn't completely buffed off (there is some haze upon close inspection). Klasse is always difficult to buff off even though I apply tiny bit on each panel.

    I was wondering if the 2nd coat of sealant gets bonded correctly to the paint even if the 1st isn't buffed off completely...

    Thanks in advance

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    Re: Layering sealant

    Quote Originally Posted by mrq0604 View Post
    I was wondering if the 2nd coat of sealant
    gets bonded correctly to the paint even if
    the 1st isn't buffed off completely...
    1.) Just because some of the residues of the
    1st coat of Sealant hasn’t been completely
    buffed-off (i.e.: removed), doesn’t particularly
    mean that the properties that cause the
    Sealant to bond to the vehicle’s paint surfaces
    haven’t been effectuated.


    2.) With the above scenario in mind (and not
    wishing to disregard “The Laws of Physics”):

    Since the 1st coat of Sealant is now bonded
    to the paint...it would seem, to me, to be nigh
    onto impossible for a 2nd coat of the Sealant
    to somehow “work” its way into—and through—
    that bonded-to-the-paint 1st coat of Sealant to
    somehow bond itself to the paint instead.

    -Would the 1st coat of Sealant “unbond”
    from the paint?
    -If so: Where would it go?


    Something to consider:
    -Will/Can a 2nd coat of a Sealant bond
    to the 1st coat of that Sealant?
    -Is it “Physics”-ally possible? Or not?



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    Re: Layering sealant

    Quote Originally Posted by FUNX650 View Post
    1.) Just because some of the residues of the
    1st coat of Sealant hasn’t been completely
    buffed-off (i.e.: removed), doesn’t particularly
    mean that the properties that cause the
    Sealant to bond to the vehicle’s paint surfaces
    haven’t been effectuated.


    2.) With the above scenario in mind (and not
    wishing to disregard “The Laws of Physics”):

    Since the 1st coat of Sealant is now bonded
    to the paint...it would seem, to me, to be nigh
    onto impossible for a 2nd coat of the Sealant
    to somehow “work” its way into—and through—
    that bonded-to-the-paint 1st coat of Sealant to
    somehow bond itself to the paint instead.

    -Would the 1st coat of Sealant “unbond”
    from the paint?
    -If so: Where would it go?


    Something to consider:
    -Will/Can a 2nd coat of a Sealant bond
    to the 1st coat of that Sealant?
    -Is it “Physics”-ally possible? Or not?



    Bob
    I don't understand what you are saying here... So did I ruin the detail work? Should I start all over again?

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    Re: Layering sealant

    Quote Originally Posted by FUNX650 View Post
    1.) Just because some of the residues of the
    1st coat of Sealant hasn’t been completely
    buffed-off (i.e.: removed), doesn’t particularly
    mean that the properties that cause the
    Sealant to bond to the vehicle’s paint surfaces
    haven’t been effectuated.


    2.) With the above scenario in mind (and not
    wishing to disregard “The Laws of Physics”):

    Since the 1st coat of Sealant is now bonded
    to the paint...it would seem, to me, to be nigh
    onto impossible for a 2nd coat of the Sealant
    to somehow “work” its way into—and through—
    that bonded-to-the-paint 1st coat of Sealant to
    somehow bond itself to the paint instead.

    -Would the 1st coat of Sealant “unbond”
    from the paint?
    -If so: Where would it go?


    Something to consider:
    -Will/Can a 2nd coat of a Sealant bond
    to the 1st coat of that Sealant?
    -Is it “Physics”-ally possible? Or not?



    Bob
    So does the 2nd sealant bond to the first coat of sealant? I studied qed and cmp, but I don't know about how these things would work...

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    Re: Layering sealant

    Quote Originally Posted by mrq0604 View Post
    I don't understand what you are saying here... So did I ruin the detail work? Should I start all over again?
    You brought up “bonding” in your OP.
    Accordingly: My thoughts were, that,
    I should at least try to expound a little
    bit upon that premise...not that you
    should start the sealing step over.


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    Re: Layering sealant

    Quote Originally Posted by FUNX650 View Post
    You brought up “bonding” in your OP.
    Accordingly: My thoughts were, that,
    I should at least try to expound a little
    bit upon that premise...not that you
    should start the sealing step over.


    Bob
    Sorry for the confusion.

    I just wanted to know whether 2nd coat of sealant was applied correctly even thought he 1st coat was not completely buffed off.

    So should I apply the sealant again?

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    Re: Layering sealant

    Quote Originally Posted by mrq0604 View Post
    Sorry for the confusion.

    I just wanted to know whether 2nd coat of sealant was applied correctly even thought he 1st coat was not completely buffed off.

    So should I apply the sealant again?
    I think you’re fine right now with a level coat of Klasse applied to your vehicle, regardless of which application left how much product. Doesn’t matter.

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    Re: Layering sealant

    Quote Originally Posted by acuRAS82 View Post
    I think you’re fine right now with a level coat of Klasse applied to your vehicle, regardless of which application left how much product. Doesn’t matter.
    Does the sealant normally penetrate below the residue of earlier-applied sealant? My thought was that 2nd coat of sealant would be on the residue of the 1st coat of sealant, which would be removed when buffing

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    Re: Layering sealant

    So should I apply another coat of Klasse? I was going to apply Collinite 845 this weekend after the first wash, but should I apply Klasse instead, and then apply Klasse next weekend?

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    Re: Layering sealant

    I know there are a lot of professional detailers on this forum. Is this something you guys do as well when layering sealant? I would appreciate any input. Thanks

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