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ok, so what could I have done differently??
So I think I got ahold of my first "sticky paint" today. I have done Hondas before and other cars. But this Honda I noticed that when I used the Menzerna 2500 it would haze and kinda gum up fast. Pretty much in 2 to 3 passes fast, and I was trying for 4 passes. Now I did use the Boss 21 with a 6 inch pad on speed 4. I did not go super slow with the arm speed and I used little pressure. When I did this I could feel it grabbing to the paint and when I went to remove it .. it was real tough ... even with detail spray.
Now however interestingly I also used a porter cable polisher with 3.5 inch pads, on speed 5, and with a bit more pressure, and I did not have the hard to remove gum up issue, even going over it the 4 passes that I was shooting for with the porter cable.
So I thought maybe the heat from the pad size and the larger throw was causing it... but I am not sure. Maybe it was the Menzerna 2500 that doesnt have a lot of lubrication it it. I almost tied HD speed ... but this paint was trashed .. LOTs of swirls and scratches .. which did come out.
What are some other experiences with this type of paint where the polish gums up fast and is hard to remove? What do you do?
Thanks!
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Re: ok, so what could I have done differently??
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Re: ok, so what could I have done differently??
What pad did you use on the 21?
I've never had that happen with a Menzerna product.
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Re: ok, so what could I have done differently??
What Honda is it?
On my daughter's 2012 Fit, a finishing polish with a 5.5" foam polishing pad (5" backing plate) worked great with no issues. I didn't use any extra pressure and kept the DA polisher on speed 4~5.
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Re: ok, so what could I have done differently??
Originally Posted by dlc95
What pad did you use on the 21?
I've never had that happen with a Menzerna product.
I used a foam Griots Garage yellow pad.. I also used a Green polishing pad from Chemical Guys. They Both did the same thing.
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Re: ok, so what could I have done differently??
Originally Posted by desertnate
what honda is it?
On my daughter's 2012 fit, a finishing polish with a 5.5" foam polishing pad (5" backing plate) worked great with no issues. I didn't use any extra pressure and kept the da polisher on speed 4~5.
crz
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Re: ok, so what could I have done differently??
Originally Posted by RMarkJr
I used a foam Griots Garage yellow pad.. I also used a Green polishing pad from Chemical Guys. They Both did the same thing.
How much product were you using on both the 21, and the PC pads?
You might be able to get away with speeds 2 or 3 with the 21.
2500 is pretty heavily lubricated.
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Re: ok, so what could I have done differently??
Originally Posted by RMarkJr
I used a foam Griots Garage yellow pad.. I also used a Green polishing pad from Chemical Guys. They Both did the same thing.
Soft pads like the ones you mentioned do gum up with 2500 oils, also 2500 likes to be worked longer.
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Re: ok, so what could I have done differently??
Did you try adding a tiny little bit (but really just a tiny little bit) spritz of water to the pad (also possibly not straight away, but after before the last or last two passes)? It helps both with lubrication and heat dissipation. It might however make your pad sling polish around more than usual.
Also are you sure that you pad wasn't stalling regularly? Large throw DAs with large pads tend to stall fairly easily, but you might not notice it, unless your backing plate or pad is marked asymmetrically.
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Re: ok, so what could I have done differently??
Originally Posted by dlc95
How much product were you using on both the 21, and the PC pads?
You might be able to get away with speeds 2 or 3 with the 21.
2500 is pretty heavily lubricated.
well I loaded the pad first by smearing it around.. after that 3 to 4 drops. The same on the 6inch pad and the 3.5 pad on the PC. I could have tried a slower speed but I also didnt want to really slow down arm speed or more passes for make up for less rotations.
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