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    Re: Beat Sealant for black / dark paint

    what about AIO, do they generally "polish" as well ?

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    Re: Beat Sealant for black / dark paint

    Quote Originally Posted by 01AUDI View Post
    For yall with dark/black paint..

    are you saying that the you cant tell a
    difference in the sealant because you
    generally apply wax over top anyway..

    or are you saying that even if you
    applied just a sealant that you still
    cant tell much difference ?
    Being curious by nature:
    Are you talking about black/dark
    Single-Stage (SS) paint-systems;
    or: black/dark Base Coat/Clear Coat
    (BC/CC) paint-systems?



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    Re: Beat Sealant for black / dark paint

    Quote Originally Posted by 01AUDI View Post
    what about AIO, do they generally "polish" as well ?
    It depends on the AIO and the hardness of the paint.

    The durability of the AIO's vary widely as well. I've used an older Meguiars product and the Griots One Step Sealant. I really liked the Griots from a looks and correction standpoint on soft paints like Toyota and Genesis, but the durability was only about 6~8 weeks.

    Other members here seem to like HD Speed, McKee's 37 360, and Meguiars 166(?).
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    Re: Beat Sealant for black / dark paint

    Quote Originally Posted by 01AUDI View Post
    For yall with dark / black paint.. are you saying that the you cant tell a difference in the sealant because you generally apply wax over top anyway.. or are you saying that even if you applied just a sealant that you still cant tell much difference ?
    I could tell a difference between sealant alone and sealant with a wax topper. The sealant is almost always very shiny. The sealant topped with wax (depending on what brand of wax) would usually have a much deeper look. Best results were with wax alone, I think. But it's all very subjective depending on what look you prefer.

    But when just applying sealant alone, I never saw much difference between different brands. And that's probably when the polishing prep work is most evident. More so than when a wax is applied.

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    Re: Beat Sealant for black / dark paint

    Bob, I was talking about base/clear coat paint.

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    Re: Beat Sealant for black / dark paint

    Quote Originally Posted by 01AUDI View Post
    Bob, I was talking about base/clear coat paint.
    Then you’re only working on the
    Clear Coat paint.

    •Once the CC has been corrected to
    your satisfaction...pick a panel (hood;
    trunk lid) upon which to perform two
    “Test Spots”: on one-half of the panel
    apply a Wax; on the other half apply
    a Sealant.

    Being that:
    •Everyone’s take on visual effects varies;
    and:
    •“Beauty is in the eye of the beholder”...

    -You can then be, up close and personal,
    the judge and jury—not me, or some other
    Internet entity.



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    Re: Beat Sealant for black / dark paint

    What about a hybrid style, I need the sealant durability but want that wet look too. Collinite 915 seems to be a sealant that just has a lot of carnauba and would save me time from using more than one product.

    1. Would I get more depth, shine and wet look from something like 915 or would I get that more by applying a regular synthetic sealant like fk1000 and then add a layer of carnuaba wax on top?

    2. If i used 915, I know it will protect but will it loose its carnauba depth after a month or two.

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    Re: Beat Sealant for black / dark paint

    This thread has sat for a few days, but I didn't see any answer to the question.

    Rather than play with layering various LSP's you might try simply applying a spray wax after each wash.

    When I was still using sealants I'd apply one, good, even coat on the whole vehicle. Each time I washed the car I'd use a spray wax either as a drying aid or a final wipe-down after everything was dry. This kept the finish looking fresh and glossy. Since spray waxes are fairly inexpensive, I was able to play around with a few over time to see which ones I liked best. I needed a drying aid anyway, so this approach worked out well.
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    Re: Beat Sealant for black / dark paint

    I understand what your saying about not wasting time layering. My issue is that my DD black paint is out all the time in the heat so I was hoping to get either fk1000 or Collinite base for protection that will stand up to the heat and I only have to apply 2-3 times a year. then add a carnuaba top coat soley to help with depth and looks every month or two.

    I have OCW spray like you suggested, but I used it last week and my black paint looked amazing from where it was before, but very glossy and with little depth. My black is black, no metallic at all. So I think it will work better on my silver car.

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