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    ceramic coatings vs Zaino

    Not starting a religious war, but here's the story.
    I've been detailing my cars for years with the firm belief that Zaino is the best stuff out there. A lot of work, but worth it.
    Saw an ad recently for a used Tesla where it mentioned Opticoat, and that it had just been "refreshed". Started looking into it. Ceramic coatings, who knew. People seem happy with them.

    So, I now know there is Opticoat, Cquartz in various flavors, and other similar products.
    Got some estimates and doing my new Audi Q7 is quoted as $1399 to $2699 depending on the detailer and the product (100 mile radius of providers I sampled).

    I'm sure a real pro will do a better job, and there will be a warranty. But here are my simple questions:
    • I know how to wash, clay bar, and much more. Is there any reason I shouldn't attempt this myself with one of the aftermarket products available such as on AG, for under $100?
    • If I do that, how often does the product need to be "refreshed"? Especially compared with a commercial application, which may or may not be the same product.


    If you told me that this is difficult to apply, and a detailer needs to spend 6-8 hours and would charge $695-800, I would just have it done. But at the prices I was quoted my head is reeling...

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    Re: ceramic coatings vs Zaino

    Welcome to the forum first of all!

    I'm just a backyard detailer and don't own a building with overhead, employee's, rent, etc but the high end of that seems pretty high IMO, LOL. I'm sure that these prices include full correction but I wonder what else because the price doubles on the high end. Maybe it would help if you stated where you live but even then, I don't get the prices. I know a place here in Chicago, can't remember the name, does PPF and does paint correction before the install and then ceramic coating after the install and the price was like $4000 on a Corvette but I believe that also included doing the interior and applying coating there as well, also wheels off and coating of the wheels, barrels and all.

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    Question Re: ceramic coatings vs Zaino

    Oh yeah, one more thing, since your Q7 is brand new have you considered doing this yourself, its actually pretty straight forward and would save you quite a bit of money. I mean you'd have to buy some products up front like iron remover, paint prep, polish and ofcoarse the coating itself. Do you have a random orbital machine?
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    Re: ceramic coatings vs Zaino

    I live in the SF Bay Area where the prices are probably the highest in the US besides Manhattan. Yes, I've definitely considered doing it myself, that's why I'm here

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    Re: ceramic coatings vs Zaino

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    I live in the SF Bay Area where the prices are probably the highest in the US besides Manhattan. Yes, I've definitely considered doing it myself, that's why I'm here
    Well that explains thatceramic coatings vs Zaino

    I would go for it yourself and there's enough people online and certainly in your backyard that I'm willing to bet who would come over and help you, this is a great community hereceramic coatings vs Zainoceramic coatings vs Zaino

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    Re: ceramic coatings vs Zaino

    I'd go with Polish Angel, easy to use and exceptional shine and excellent durability, super easy to maintain.

    You can get them at AG's sister sight autopia:

    Polish Angel Car Care Products

    My Nissan Rogue, prepped with PA Esclate Lotion, finished with Viking Coat

    Polish Angel Viking Coat 50 ml.

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    Re: ceramic coatings vs Zaino

    As a former Zaino head will say yes make the jump to coatings, I did and will never look back.

    Really is not that difficult to do yourself, prep is the key. Do plenty research, checkout some YouTube videos, read some reviews and you should be good to go. I used Optimum for the first go round, very easy to apply. Most will give the nod to McKee's when it comes to ease of use but everyone is different. One thing I would encourage is plenty of light to catch all the high spots.

    Good luck and let us know how it turns out.

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    Re: ceramic coatings vs Zaino

    Temp is VERY IMPORTANT when applying and curing of the coating. It needs to be at least 70 degrees and kept out of the environment for 24 hrs (in most cases) after install.

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    Re: ceramic coatings vs Zaino

    And temp, high spots etc are all a non factor when using Polish Angels products. I machine apply Viking Coat

    My Rupes Mini with a 4" LC Blue pad, I used less than 1/4 of the bottle of VC to do my entire Rogue.


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    Re: ceramic coatings vs Zaino

    I will be doing an entirely different coating next year, mainly because of how these "spots" reappeared when it got cool right after Labor Day and then went away when it warmed up. I can only imagine what's going to happen when fall gets here and we creep closer to the sh!ty season between fall and spring.

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