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    Exclamation New Detailer with soft paint! MC2500/SF3500 or WGTSR?

    Hello fellow Autogeeks, new wannabe detailer here!
    So for the past few weeks I've been doing a lot of research in an attempt to find the best product combination that will work for me.

    The undertaking:
    12' Black Honda Civic - Medium swirls all over the car. Very visible. My understanding is Honda's have very soft paint.
    15' Black F150 - Lightly swirled. One small area has scratches that I can feel with my fingernail, would like to spot treat it as well as lightly polish the rest of the vehicle. Also soft paint?

    Ideally, I would like to do a two-step correction as these are my personal vehicles and I'm willing to take the time to do it right. I also want a product that will work for both of my vehicles and that are aggressive enough to correct at least 90% of swirls & defects.
    Here is what I've narrowed it down to:

    Menzerna Combo:
    MC2500 (formerly PF2500) - LC White Flat Pad
    SF3500 (formerly SF4000) - LC Black Flat Pad

    Wolfgang Combo:
    WGTSR - LC White Flat Pad
    WG Finishing Glaze - LC Black Flat Pad

    Other Combo?

    I don't believe I need a compound at this stage but I like the idea of the WG twins as the WGTSR is a slightly more aggressive polish than MC2500 and may give me more flexibility.

    Tools I've picked up:
    Griots 6" Random Orbital
    5" Backing Plate
    x2 of each LC 5.5" pads (Orange, White, Black, Blue) - I think I'll need more of these from what I've been reading.

    I know ultimately a test spot will determine what combination of polish and pad is right for my vehicle, but any feedback on my options would be appreciated before I pull the trigger.
    Cheers!

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    Re: New Detailer with soft paint! MC2500/SF3500 or WGTSR?

    I recently did a black 2015 Accord with menzerna 3 in 1 (comparable to 2500 in terms of cut) and a flat white pad. It came out great but the paint wasn't in that bad of shape to begin with. You might have to step up to an orange pad to get the correction you're after. Do a test spot first.

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    Re: New Detailer with soft paint! MC2500/SF3500 or WGTSR?

    Quote Originally Posted by 986DTM View Post
    I recently did a black 2015 Accord with menzerna 3 in 1 (comparable to 2500 in terms of cut) and a flat white pad. It came out great but the paint wasn't in that bad of shape to begin with. You might have to step up to an orange pad to get the correction you're after. Do a test spot first.
    I'm going to be using a sealant afterwards so I'm not necessarily looking for a 3-1 product. Any opinions of the combos above?

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    Re: New Detailer with soft paint! MC2500/SF3500 or WGTSR?

    Like I said, 3 in 1 has the same cut as 2500, so interpret what I said as you will. Having said that, 2500 with a white pad will probably finish down lsp ready as it is. Depending on what level of perfection you're after, following up with 3500 may not be necessary. If you have to use an orange pad with the 2500, that would be when you'd follow up with 3500 with a white or black pad afterwards IMO.

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