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Wax is gone ! How can I prove this out?
We know that most common waxes that customers use deteriorate over time. Sealers last considerably longer. Some sealers claim 4 to 6 months.
The question is how can I determine if the wax has deteriorated completely. What is available ?
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Re: Wax is gone ! How can I prove this out?
I would do a beading test as well as a finger swipe test. That is what I usually do. The beading of the ride should bead nice and tight and water should slide off quite easily. If you put water on your ride and it just stays there and barely slides off the panel is another indication. There would be sheening and no beading of water. Additionally, if you gently rub your finger on the panel and it grabs and is not slick to the touch it is time to re-wax or re-seal or re-coat.
At least that is what I do. If it comes to that process then it's time to prep and then LSP, whether it be a 1, 2 or 3 step procedure.
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The issue is that water beading is not a sign of whether or not a protective layer is or is not on the paint. Water beading is a product of high surface tension, and surface tension can be altered by many things.
To answer your specific question, I believe the only real way to prove if a material has degraded is with laboratory testing.
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Short of laboratory testing, if you corner an I tire panel with water if there is nothing left it should slowly sheet off. If you see someone spots sheeting much faster or the water beads on there is definitely some wax left. But since wax will usually last longer on vertical panels, unless you're talking winter conditions, this isn't going to tell you if it's off the entire car.
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I agree with Zach.
However, communicating that to the lay person isn't as straightforward.
Most people associate paint protection with water beading. Many of the retail waxes promote based on beading. One brand is even named after the effect waxed paint has on water.
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Re: Wax is gone ! How can I prove this out?
Originally Posted by Dandy98
The question is
how can I determine if the wax
has deteriorated completely.
What is available ?
Instrumentation; i.e., Ellipsometers.
(spectroscopic ellipsometry)
Note:
This measuring device, by its nature,
will also help determine Waxes’ optical
properties. (Example: refractive indices.)
Bob
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Whether the water beading is still tight and sheeting off car, finger swipe test for slickness, and whether dirt is sticking to the paint making it harder to wash clean.
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Re: Wax is gone ! How can I prove this out?
Originally Posted by FUNX650
Instrumentation; i.e., Ellipsometers.
(spectroscopic ellipsometry)
Note:
This measuring device, by its nature,
will also help determine Waxes’ optical
properties. (Example: refractive indices.)
Bob
Do you have one of these gizmos? Maybe you can put this topic to rest!!
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