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    HD Speed, Pre-Wax Paint Cleaner or PB Black Hole

    I am sorry if this has been asked before, but I have two black cars which are fairly well maintained. Both received full details (decon, 2-step polish) in the early spring and have been washed regularly (using 2BM). At this point of the summer I would like to renew the LSP on the vehicles. Before I do so, I figure that each could benefit from one of the above-referenced products to prep the paint for the LSP (say Power Lock or WGDGPS 3.0).

    My question is which product should I use? I have heard great things about HD Speed, but I am looking for ease of use for this initial prep stage. I will be using a Flex 3401 and am looking for the product which will give me the most bang for my time spent.
    Thanks!

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    Re: HD Speed, Pre-Wax Paint Cleaner or PB Black Hole

    HD speed will leave some lsp on the surface, so it's not a good choice before adding a sealent like powerlock. There are good pre cleaners like P21S prewax, that would be better options.

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    Re: HD Speed, Pre-Wax Paint Cleaner or PB Black Hole

    HD polish makes more sense.
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    Re: HD Speed, Pre-Wax Paint Cleaner or PB Black Hole

    Quote Originally Posted by silverfox View Post
    HD polish makes more sense.
    Agreed, HD Polish or Optimum Hyper Polish.

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    Re: HD Speed, Pre-Wax Paint Cleaner or PB Black Hole

    Thanks Silverfox. If I use HD Polish as a pre-wax cleaner, how many passess do you think that I will need with a white hybrid pad? I have not used HD Polish before but I have noticed that you and a few other regulars highly recommend it. Do you often use it as a standalone polish when warranted? If so, what is your approach for using it?

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    Re: HD Speed, Pre-Wax Paint Cleaner or PB Black Hole

    Quote Originally Posted by jakeclk View Post
    Thanks Silverfox. If I use HD Polish as a pre-wax cleaner, how many passess do you think that I will need with a white hybrid pad? I have not used HD Polish before but I have noticed that you and a few other regulars highly recommend it. Do you often use it as a standalone polish when warranted? If so, what is your approach for using it?
    HD Polish is a SMAT product so you don't have to worry about multiple passes to break down the abrasives like you would with a DAT Polish. HD Polish has fine abrasives and would be a good polish for your black cars IMO. Another good option for cleansing/prepping before LSP is Prima Amigo. Amigo has very lite abrasives that has a little correction ability used with the correct pad.

    I use HD Polish and Amigo both are excellent products... that said if your in need of a fine polish the HD makes more sense IMO.






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    Re: HD Speed, Pre-Wax Paint Cleaner or PB Black Hole

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