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Pinnacle system with Zaino???
My black Tacoma has several coats of z2. I want it to look better so I have purchased the Pinnacle system used in Mike Phillips video. I want to do everything exactly like the video, except use z2 before the soveran for durability over the winter. Will the z2 bond over the Pinnacle lotion? Will the z2 detract from the Soveran? Is there a better plan for black? Thanks guys. I really appreciate all that I have learned from you all.
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Re: Pinnacle system with Zaino???
Originally Posted by Dewy
Will the z2 bond over the Pinnacle lotion?
No. Zaino states the surface must be stripped free from any polishing/lubricating oils and any other substance that could interfere with the bonding of their protection ingredients.
Originally Posted by Dewy
Will the z2 detract from the Soveran?
When I worked for Meguiar's I tested Zaino products extensively and even wrote a 60+ page called "The Zaino Case Study", which was a report on both Zaino and how discussion forums work for viral word-of-mouth advertising. This was in 2003 and keep in mind, "Discussion Forums" were BRAND NEW so older people in management positions really didn't know what they were. I even created a power point presentation to show the difference between a discussion forum and a chat room. Need pictures to show the difference.
I wasn't too impressed by Z2 until the Z2 Pro was introduced. It's actually a very good and long lasting sealant that makes water bead-up like crazy and you can't wash it off. That's another fun story about a test R&D did that afterwards, the VP of Meguiar's apologized to me for not listening to me for over a year when I told him Zaino lasted a lot longer than NXT Tech Wax, of which I wrote the concept paper for back when I wrote the Zaino Case Study.
Originally Posted by Dewy
Is there a better plan for black? Thanks guys. I really appreciate all that I have learned from you all.
Pinnacle Advanced Swirl Remover and Pinnacle Finishing Polish work really well to remove swirls and scratches and prep the paint for the application of "something", that is a car wax, a synthetic paint sealant or a coating. But if you use "some" sealants, and all coatings you need to chemically strip the paint first.
I'm not a huge fan of chemically stripping paint because the potential exists to dull the paint and micro-mar it during the stripping process. Washing CAREFULLY with a detergent soap can be a lot less evasive.
I don't use the Pinnacle Paintwork Cleansing Lotion much because this is a chemical cleaner only and most of the time I need to remove swirls and scratches. It does work well and I demonstrate it here,
How to clay, clean and wax paint by hand with Pinnacle Paintwork Cleansing Lotion and Pinnacle Signature Series II Carnauba Paste Wax
Here's a car we used Pinnacle Swirl Remover and Finishing Polish on and then we chemically stripped the paint and applied Gtechniq C1 Crystal Lacquer. I looked at the car last Saturday and it still looks great.
Video & Pictures - GTechniq Makeover - 2012 High Voltage Yellow Scion tC 7.0
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Re: Pinnacle system with Zaino???
Hi Dewy...
Disclaimer:
I have never personally used any Zaino car-care products…
But…With you stating that you have used products in the Zaino line-up for awhile now:
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/...no-switch.html
And…After reading your following threads the other day:
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/...ombo-work.html
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/...-good-one.html
-I decided to call upon a couple Buddies of mine that are "Zaino-Zealots",
to see if I could get some feedback regarding your concerns.
-They ascribe to the following "steps" (of course they prefer Sal’s suggestions/product-line):
1. No problem in using the paint-correction/paint-prep products/product-line of choice.
2. Vehicle then needs to be stripped/washed (Dawn Ultra) of any "correction-products’ left-overs" (oils, for example)
3. Then apply Z-AIO
4. Since this is a darker vehicle…Then: Z-5 w/ZFX; let cure and buff
5. Next…Z-2 w/ZFX; let cure and buff
6. If no further layers/coats of anything-Zaino are desired…Use your non-abrasive-wax of choice.
-I’m sure you know most of the Zaino-process…Just my Buddies lending a hand.
Bob
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NOTE: Mike Phillips' replies to this thread can be taken to the Bank...IMO.
"Be wary of the man who urges an action in which he himself incurs no risk."
~Joaquin de Setanti
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Re: Pinnacle system with Zaino???
Thanks, FUNX725. I agree Mike Phillips' rules.
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Re: Pinnacle system with Zaino???
The only Zaino product I know of that ponds to anything other than Zaino is their Z-CS wowo product, it even says so on their website.
2022 Elantra N Cyber Gray
Some say..."He likes Swedish fish because they're made with caranuba wax"
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Re: Pinnacle system with Zaino???
Originally Posted by Dewy
My black Tacoma has several coats of z2. I want it to look better so I have purchased the Pinnacle system used in Mike Phillips video.
Please keep us updated on this project...
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I took Mike's advice and in the middle of the polish stage. Wow. He knows what he is talking about and Pinnacle twins are great. I tried to take pictures but they are not turning out. Thanks Mike.
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