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    Ultimate Polish and M205 Problems

    Hey fellas,

    Was just trying to work in UP and it was flash drying on me after just three passes. I was following up Ultimate compound. I switched over to M205 and again the same thing only after 4-5 passes. The vehicle recieving the treatment is a red C5 Vette. I had to IPA the dried on polish. Any ideas why my stuff was flash drying on me? Also both products less than 2 years old.

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    Re: Ultimate Polish and M205 Problems

    you might be using too much product. work also on a small area at a time.

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    Re: Ultimate Polish and M205 Problems

    Quote Originally Posted by smack View Post
    Hey fellas,

    Was just trying to work in UP and it was flash drying on me after just three passes. I was following up Ultimate compound. I switched over to M205 and again the same thing only after 4-5 passes. The vehicle recieving the treatment is a red C5 Vette. I had to IPA the dried on polish. Any ideas why my stuff was flash drying on me? Also both products less than 2 years old.

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    Could be the detailing area/vehicle's:
    -panels'/area's temp
    -humidity [relative and absolute(dew point)]
    -ambient temp
    -wind speed...including fans (if applicable)

    Probably a few more environmental causes that's not listed...

    Hope you get everything tuned in!




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    Re: Ultimate Polish and M205 Problems

    Bob,

    Car was in garage the during the process in 65 degrees Las vegas weather. No fans so no wind. I would imagine low humidity.

    Ginnova,

    I might have been using to much product now that I think about it. If I over apply polish would that cause it to flash dry on me?

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    What kind of speed and pressure was being used?

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    Re: Ultimate Polish and M205 Problems

    Quote Originally Posted by smack View Post
    Bob,
    Car was in garage the during the process in 65 degrees Las vegas weather. No fans so no wind. I would imagine low humidity.
    That can pretty much rule out my previous thoughts, then.

    I suppose it gets back to the products/processes...Their ages, exposure to different storage temp ranges; machine/arm speeds, pressure; pads...priming, type, condition....

    Just me guessing....Probably not much help, Sorry...
    Wish I was there...Might be able to take a more educated stab at your dilemma.



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    EDIT: Low humidity, coupled with medium temps is not always a good thing....Less moisture in the 'air'...if you get my drift.
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    Re: Ultimate Polish and M205 Problems

    I was using both products on Megs foam finishing pads. Of course one pad per product. Both were being used on the 3 and 4 speed range. I think I over lubricated the pad and finish. I got out of control because at first it was going fine then I kept adding more and more product thinking that I would get a longer buffing cycle but I saw that it was getting worse. In which case I stopped what I was doing.

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    Re: Ultimate Polish and M205 Problems

    Quote Originally Posted by smack View Post
    I was using both products on Megs foam finishing pads. Of course one pad per product. Both were being used on the 3 and 4 speed range. I think I over lubricated the pad and finish. I got out of control because at first it was going fine then I kept adding more and more product thinking that I would get a longer buffing cycle but I saw that it was getting worse. In which case I stopped what I was doing.
    Glad you found the culprit, and the solution!!



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    Re: Ultimate Polish and M205 Problems

    Quote Originally Posted by smack View Post
    I was using both products on Megs foam finishing pads. Of course one pad per product. Both were being used on the 3 and 4 speed range. I think I over lubricated the pad and finish. I got out of control because at first it was going fine then I kept adding more and more product thinking that I would get a longer buffing cycle but I saw that it was getting worse. In which case I stopped what I was doing.

    Happened at least once to many of us.

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    Re: Ultimate Polish and M205 Problems

    how could adding more product cause it to dry faster? if anything, wouldn't it cause longer buffing time and more lubricating agents? how is it dry buffing with MORE product?

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