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    Re: Clay / polish question

    I have always heard "if you clay--- you polish "
    But with new developments with these new fangled products- Was just checking to see

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    Re: Clay / polish question

    Quote Originally Posted by 2wookies View Post
    If I’m putting any kind of abrasive decontaminate on paint it’s getting a light polish after. Don’t care how soft it might be or how hard the paint is.
    I thought the same at first, but my truck is a DD and winters here in NY can be nasty. Protection, and not Perfection is my goal here.

    Clearcoats are thin. (I think a guy named Mike mentioned this here on AGO........ Lol) And polishing twice a year just doesn't make sense for me. (JMO for my particular situation).
    It is no coincidence that man's best friend cannot talk.

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    Re: Clay / polish question

    Test spot, as with most things detailing. That's ultimately how one can decide which steps to take.

    What makes you happy? Or the owner, if they're paying you.

    The owner of this was VERY happy. He didn't want a polish. I had polished his 80s Porsche a while ago, and he was happy with that as well. But for his daily driver truck, he just wanted "wash, clay, and wax". He liked how the paint "popped" [his word] when I was done



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    Re: Clay / polish question

    clay will make it slick
    wax will fill

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    Re: Clay / polish question

    Quote Originally Posted by luckydawg View Post
    clay will make it slick
    wax will fill
    Indeed.

    Wax can also make it slick.



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    Re: Clay / polish question

    Quote Originally Posted by PaulMys View Post
    When/if I have to clay in the fall, I don't worry about the marring. The clear on my Ram is a little on the hard side, and the metallic gray pretty much hides any marring.

    So I just clay what I have to, then throw my winter coat on (476s). This further hides any potential marring.

    In the Spring, it always gets clayed and a full polish afterward.
    When I still used sealants, I used a similar approach. The one difference is I'd apply a glaze after claying and before the sealant to hide any marring or swirls through the winter. It wasn't needed, but since my vehicles are all dark colored it made me feel a little better.
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    Re: Clay / polish question

    Quote Originally Posted by Desertnate View Post
    When I still used sealants I used a similar approach. The one difference is I'd apply a glaze after claying and before the sealant to hide any marring or swirls through the winter. It wasn't needed, but since my vehicles are all dark colored it made me feel a little better.
    So you dont use sealants anymore? Why is that?
    You never had an issue with the sealants bonding after the glaze?

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    Re: Clay / polish question

    Quote Originally Posted by luckydawg View Post
    So you dont use sealants anymore? Why is that?
    I left sealants and now use only coatings on all my vehicles. For someone with three daily drivers in the household and limited time, coatings make life much easier on several fronts.

    Instead of having to block out time twice a year to detail those vehicles and apply an LSP, I now only do them once every two years. Also, I have them on an alternating schedule so I never do more than two cars in one year and even then I can spread them out between spring and fall. I no longer have to carefully schedule the detailing work to ensure the LSP will get me all the way through the winter.

    The water shedding and easy to clean properties also make them far easier and faster to wash. All manner of horrible grime just wipes right on in a bucket wash far easier than with sealants I've used in the past. The fact a dusty car can be washed almost totally clean with a hard rain is just an added bonus.

    All of that said, I will be doing a test on my own car of the new Wolfgang SiO2 Sealant this winter simply to see what it's like. I was given a bottle, so I'll make the most of it. However, next spring I'll be back to a coating.

    You never had an issue with the sealants bonding after the glaze?
    No I didn't, but that is because I used either Poorboys Black Hole or Prima Amigo which are both designed to be topped with a sealant.
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    Re: Clay / polish question

    Iíll be the guy to say that Iíve used a cleaner polish in lieu of a clay bar.
    The paint passed the plastic baggy test, but it had some spots on it.
    Followed up with an siO2 primer polish, then a 25% SiO2 coating.

    I did use the Griotís synthetic clay sponge on the car a couple years ago, and since itís gathered a staggering 2,200 miles since then, I skipped the clay process.

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    Re: Clay / polish question

    The finest clay I have used that is still effective is Pinnacle. It is the most likely clay to not leave marring behind. Won’t always be the case tho. Try a test spot.

    Shall I say it is the most gentle clay product on
    the market..


    Pinnacle?s Ultra Poly Clay is the single finest clay composition available today. Use auto Detailing clay to deep clean car paint, glass and chrome.
    Jim

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