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    Re: GM Cayenne metallic

    Ok Mike, I ordered a bunch of stuff last weekend on the labor day prep sale, including a 3d coating kit and Dr. Beaslys n45 primer polish (n95 was out of stock).

    I plan to hit my truck with megs ultimate compound and polish with my new BEAST and some orange and white force pads then a panel wipe with some Nason quick panel prep.

    After that process I will hit it with the Dr Beaslys n45 on black finishing pads before applying the 3d coating.



    I have a couple questions,

    When I shine a light sideways on the paint the clear looks a little cloudy. I hit it with some blackfire one step on orange force pad which didn't help much. (Could be tinted clear, I am just not sure.)

    Could this be build up of powerlock, beadmaker and onrww from the last 18 months or so?

    I mix a half ounce onrww in 16 ounce of water for waterless wash/detailer, and apply beadmaker sporadically. Megs ultimate soap when it needs a good wash, never any kind of strip wash. Should I wipe it with panel prep before compound?



    Anyway it is what it is,just looking for the best clarity and gloss I can do.

    Will one kit do a crew cab short bed?

    Can I apply it to the black trim after solution finish?

    Can I apply it to the chromed plastic and the bumpers?

    Can I apply it to Headlights?

    Can you recommend some products to maintain this coating? (Don't know if all coating products are compatible)

    What would you do to maintain?
    Weekly wash shampoo?
    Rinseless wash?
    Quick detailer for bugs and such?
    A maintenance topper?

    Gravel road = dusty truck.

    Thanks for all your help and informative post.





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    Re: GM Cayenne metallic

    Quote Originally Posted by Stlchucky View Post

    Ok Mike, I ordered a bunch of stuff last weekend on the labor day prep sale,

    Thank you for your business. I always wonder?

    How much business to the Autogeek.com store does the information on this forum create?




    Quote Originally Posted by Stlchucky View Post

    including a 3d coating kit
    Top notch chemistry from Tunch Gorin at 3D - you can't go wrong. You started this thread back in JUNE and as I type it's September 2nd. Since then, in fact we finished it just last week, my buddy Royce and I wetsanded, cut, buffed and then applied 3 COATS of the 3D Ceramic Coating to his boat. See the full write-up here. No other in-depth write-up like this anywhere on the Internet or Planet Earth.

    Review: 3D Ceramic Coating on a Marine Gelcoat Boat











    Quote Originally Posted by Stlchucky View Post

    and Dr. Beasley n45 primer polish (n95 was out of stock).


    More great technology.

    It's so easy for me to recommend products when I actually know the chemist behind the products. Jim Lafeber aka Dr. Beasley is going to be one of my VIP guests at my upcoming 3-day detailing class along with a few other guys...


    Training Cars - For the September 2020 Detailing Class







    For those reading this into the future, here's my review of the new Dr. Beasley's NSP product line,

    Review: Dr Beasley's Nano Surface Primers and 1201 Paint Coating - 1947 Dodge Panel Delivery Streetrod


    Dr Beasley's Nano Surface Primers and 1201 Paint Coating








    NOTE: The NSP 45 should be more than enough to remove all the stuff on the paint right now and remove any minor paint defects.

    MOST IMPORTANT - make sure you have lots of clean, UN-CONTAMINATED microfiber towels. See my article and video here,


    How, why & when to inspect your microfiber towels when detailing cars



    Quote Originally Posted by Stlchucky View Post

    I plan to hit my truck with megs ultimate compound and polish with my new BEAST and some orange and white force pads then a panel wipe with some Nason quick panel prep.
    So you bought a BEAST huh?

    That's a collector's item now days. FLEX is going to discontinue this version of the tool. In my opinion - it's worth its weight in GOLD. Make sure you center your pads onto the backing plate. Some of the recent LIVE DETAILING CLASS videos we've made I show how I do it and how I teach others to do it.

    I "think" I show it in this video?

    LIVE Detailing Class - Gear-Driven Orbital Polishers - Once Step Detailing


    For those reading this into the future,

    Why I call the FLEX 3401 the BEAST! by Mike Phillips





    Quote Originally Posted by Stlchucky View Post

    After that process I will hit it with the Dr Beasley's n45 on black finishing pads before applying the 3d coating.
    That will work.

    If it were me? I would test the NSP 45 by itself with a polishing pad and see if you could skip the two Meguiar's products/steps. If it's not enough to remove the paint defects to your satisfaction then maybe test the Meguiar's Ultimate Compound followed by the NSP 45 and skip the Megs Ultimate Polish step.

    I'm trying to keep you from buffing out your truck 3 times.



    Quote Originally Posted by Stlchucky View Post


    I have a couple questions,

    When I shine a light sideways on the paint the clear looks a little cloudy. I hit it with some blackfire one step on orange force pad which didn't help much. (Could be tinted clear, I am just not sure.)

    Could this be build up of powerlock, beadmaker and onrww from the last 18 months or so?
    Could be - tinted clears are a different kind of animal.



    Quote Originally Posted by Stlchucky View Post

    I mix a half ounce ONR in 16 ounce of water for waterless wash/detailer, and apply beadmaker sporadically. Megs ultimate soap when it needs a good wash, never any kind of strip wash.

    Should I wipe it with panel prep before compound?
    NO. The compound step OR any polishing step will OBLITERATE all the residues from the things you've been plastering on your truck's paint with zero problem.




    Quote Originally Posted by Stlchucky View Post

    Anyway it is what it is, just looking for the best clarity and gloss I can do.
    Do the prep work right and the 3D Ceramic Coating will be like adding a fresh layer of clear glossy paint to your truck. I was BLOWN away by what it did to the gel-coat on the 23' Center Console Boat.



    Quote Originally Posted by Stlchucky View Post

    Will one kit do a crew cab short bed?
    Yes. Apply a thin coat. Start early. Take your time.



    Quote Originally Posted by Stlchucky View Post

    Can I apply it to the black trim after solution finish?
    I don't know the answer to the but it probably woudn't hurt and it just might work.


    Quote Originally Posted by Stlchucky View Post

    Can I apply it to the chromed plastic and the bumpers?
    Hell yes. Again - check out the write-up I posted for the boat...






    Everything was cleaned, stripped and coated with 3 applications of the 3D Ceramic Coating.

    Including all the brightwork






    Quote Originally Posted by Stlchucky View Post

    Can I apply it to Headlights?
    Yes. Prep first.



    Quote Originally Posted by Stlchucky View Post

    Can you recommend some products to maintain this coating? (Don't know if all coating products are compatible)

    What would you do to maintain?
    Weekly wash shampoo?
    See what I wrote here,

    When it's on SALE - GETS SOME! - Wolfgang Uber SiO2 Coating Wash



    Quote Originally Posted by Stlchucky View Post

    Rinseless wash?
    At this time I don't do a lot of Rinseless MAINTENANCE washes. I sometimes do rineseless prep washes but then I use SONAX Glass Cleaner. For maintenance - let me think about it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Stlchucky View Post

    Quick detailer for bugs and such?
    A maintenance topper?
    For both of the above - might as well keep it in the family. Another really nice product. Watch for my upcoming review.

    3D Bead It Up

    If you like it, you can get it by the gallon.

    https://www.autogeek.net/3d-bead-it-up-128.html


    Quote Originally Posted by Stlchucky View Post

    Gravel road = dusty truck.
    Been there done that - makes it tough to be OCD about your vehicles.


    Quote Originally Posted by Stlchucky View Post

    Thanks for all your help and informative post.


    Well... I'm no YouTube Influencer but thanks...



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    Re: GM Cayenne metallic

    Thank you sir for getting back so quickly.
    Let me digest all the info.

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    Re: GM Cayenne metallic

    This one might be next if my truck turns out good.

    GM Cayenne metallic-20200902_112014_copy_1512x2016-jpg





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    Re: GM Cayenne metallic

    Quote Originally Posted by Stlchucky View Post
    This one might be next if my truck turns out good.

    GM Cayenne metallic-20200902_112014_copy_1512x2016-jpg





    Cool car.







    I think one of my Roadshow Classes was able to TRAIN on a couple of these old 2-door jobs...

    Pictures - Colorado Roadshow Detailing Class with Mike Phillips


























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