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Re: Please Help Fixing Swirl Marks!
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Re: Please Help Fixing Swirl Marks!
I wish you would have joined and asked questions and then invested money....
For everyone that will read this thread into the future - before you start spending money - simply join the forum and ask a few questions - I don't have 17 year online history of leading people down the wrong path.
Click here to join the AutogeekOnline Detailing Discussion Forum
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Re: Please Help Fixing Swirl Marks!
And unlike a Facebook Message or an Email I can do this on the forum
Share articles with clickable links
Share pictures in a manner that makes sense
Share videos
So read this and even though you bought the Porter Cable 99.9" of the info in this article applies to you.
Here's what you need to get into machine polishing - Recommendations for a beginner by Mike Phillips
In the above article I recommend these 5.5" pads - I'd recommend you get them to - Don't build up a collection of large thick pads - they won't rotate well when dry and they certainly won't rotate at all as they become saturated with product.
Lake Country ThinPro Foam Pad System 5.5 Inch
Notice the word THIN in the name of the pad - ThinPro
Get a 6-pack of the white foam polishing pads. If your budget allows, get some orange pads too just incase your truck has hard paint. Normally when doing a ONE STEP process you want to stick with foam "polishing" pads NOT foam cutting pads.
Here's my article on this topic and my normal practice.
Good rule of thumb when using an AIO - stick with foam polishing pads by Mike Phillips
See how handy a real discussion forum is?
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Re: Please Help Fixing Swirl Marks!
Next....
Watch this video - it will show you EXACTLY what to do with your Porter Cable Polisher. In the detailing industry, I coined the terms
Test Spot
Section Pass
I think that makes me qualified to make a video showing how to do these two things and that's what you'll learn in this video PLUS a ton of other tips and techniques. Hands-down one of the best videos I've ever been a part of...
And "yes" the Chevelle in the video is the real-deal. Not only a numbers matching 454 Chevelle but it was also jacked up and we fixed it.
No mock-up detailing on this forum.
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More...
Video: Mark your backing plate to make it easy to see pad rotation
Here's a quick video that show how and why to mark your backing plate to see and monitor pad rotation while doing any correction or polishing steps.
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Re: Please Help Fixing Swirl Marks!
Wow! I was not expecting such a detailed response. This is all great information and very much appreciated.
Originally Posted by
Mike Phillips
Can you return the Hex pads?
I actually ordered the pads this morning on Amazon and I just went and successfully cancelled the order so I won't be using the Hex pads. Your reasoning makes a lot of sense. Unfortunately I can't return the PC polisher so that is what I will be using with some of the white ThinPro pads.
Originally Posted by
Mike Phillips
I wish you would have joined and asked questions and then invested money....
I agree. I honestly didn't expect this level of feedback and so I purchased the pads based on online reviews and because of the recognizable name (Chemical Guys).
I am going to order some of the ThinPro pads and the BF One Step. I will also watch the video you provided before I go anywhere near my truck. This is exactly the type of guidance I was looking for. I'm probably not going to have time to do this for a few weeks but I will certainly follow up with any additional questions I have and/or hopefully some pictures of my shiny swirl-free truck
Thanks you!
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Re: Please Help Fixing Swirl Marks!
And I already have a couple follow up questions
Is there a specific backing plate you suggest to use the the PC polisher and the ThinPro pads? I see there are a lot of 5" hook and loop backing plates but some are flexible. Is flexible better?
Also, I get that the Black Fire One Step is theoretically "one step", but does that mean that I don't need to follow up with a dedicated wax?
Last edited by ThunderGun10; 03-26-2019 at 02:41 PM.
Reason: Posted before finished
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Re: Please Help Fixing Swirl Marks!
Where are you located? Maybe someone on this forum is close and could lend you a hand and get your truck done in no time.
As far as following up with a dedicated wax, No you don’t “have to” but you can if you’d like. I personally use a spray wax or sealant after using an AIO. Very quick application and removal and helps me double check for anything I may have missed.
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Re: Please Help Fixing Swirl Marks!
Originally Posted by
ThunderGun10
Wow! I was not expecting such a detailed response. This is all great information and very much appreciated.
No problem - this is how I've teen typing out help for 17 years - seems like I made a career out of showing people how to remove swirls.
Originally Posted by
ThunderGun10
And I already have a couple follow up questions
Is there a specific backing plate you suggest to use the the PC polisher and the ThinPro pads? I see there are a lot of 5" hook and loop backing plates but some are flexible. Is flexible better?
In the article I linked to, I include 2 recommended 5" backing plates that will fit the 5.5" LC pads - I would get the Lake Country mostly because it's yellow and it will be easier to "mark" with a Sharpie and easier for your eyes to monitor pad rotation.
I think I mentioned this previousy, but TONS of info in this one article I wrote.
Here's what you need to get into machine polishing - Recommendations for a beginner by Mike Phillips
I would be tempted to offer $100.00 to anyone that could find the same amount of info or more in a Facebook Group post.
From the above article,
Lake Country 5" Backing Plate
Originally Posted by
ThunderGun10
Also, I get that the Black Fire One Step is theoretically "one step", but does that mean that I don't need to follow up with a dedicated wax?
Nope - don't have to. You can if you want longer protection. As a rule, and this applies to all one-step products, the protection lasts about 3 months. Look for a long lasting liquid paint sealant and then apply it using the PC and a soft foam waxing pad.
This product is good but a bit sticky to wipe-off. As long as you only apply to small sections at a time and then wipe off it's phenomenal in longevity.
SONAX Polymer Net Shield - Closest thing to a coating without being a coating
Heck even if you only applied it to the horizontal surfaces I think you would be impressed. You can also apply to plastic trim. I do.
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