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    Re: S2000 With Possible CC Damage Question

    The feeling is definitely noticeable. The parts of the paint without overspray that i haven't clayed are clean and a little grabby. The parts with overspray are slick, but not smooth if that makes sense. I just did a baggy test and it feels like really fine sandpaper. It takes some elbow grease even with the nanoskin clay towel and clay lube. I tried some fine to medium clay initially and it didn't do much. The clay towel/mitts work better, imo, and are much quicker.

    I have no experience with clearcoat failure so I can't speak to what that might look like or feel like.

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    Re: S2000 With Possible CC Damage Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Broneida View Post
    The feeling is definitely noticeable. The parts of the paint without overspray that i haven't clayed are clean and a little grabby. The parts with overspray are slick, but not smooth if that makes sense. I just did a baggy test and it feels like really fine sandpaper. It takes some elbow grease even with the nanoskin clay towel and clay lube. I tried some fine to medium clay initially and it didn't do much. The clay towel/mitts work better, imo, and are much quicker.

    I have no experience with clearcoat failure so I can't speak to what that might look like or feel like.
    I'll try and do the baggie test over it this weekend. Would be great if that's what it was, rather than pretty early clear coat failure.

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    Re: S2000 With Possible CC Damage Question

    At the risk of doing my worst Captain Obvious impression, I'm going to throw this out there since it hasn't actually been said yet. Here goes...
    Before you can correct the problem, you have to correctly identify what it is. The approach to alleviating the issue will be very specific in terms of the products, tools, and method required. If it's over spray, the path to correction will be very different than the path you take if it's early stages of CC failure, and so on. You need to be sure what you're dealing with so you don't:
    A. Inflict harm unnecessarily.
    B. Waste time and product.

    I'm with Mike on this one. I don't think it's CC failure. Here in AZ, the climate is ideal for premature CC failure and, unfortunately, the number of vehicles that come through my shop that are in the early stages is staggering - some less than 6-7 yrs. old, and include luxury models to trucks, suv's, all the way down to entry level model cars. The perfect storm of prolonged extreme heat, super dry climate, and owners neglecting to keep some kind, any kind of wax/sealant on their vehicles, makes for a lot of vehicles with failing/failed clear coat. On average, I have to deliver the bad news about a failing CC to a client, 3-4 times per week. What I'm getting at here, is, I see a lot of it and what I'm seeing in your pics doesn't look like CC failure.

    If that's true, then you're looking at something that's ultimately completely correctable, and that's a good thing!
    If it's over spray, you don't need a baggie to know it. It will feel like 400 grit sandpaper to your bare hand. It will also be rather easily removed via clay/clay alternative.
    If it's not gritty, then it's probably staining/scaling/oxidation associated with paint that's never been properly cleaned and polished. You just might be looking at a very common situation that's about the easiest to correct out of all the things we come across in this business. That said, I'd start with a thorough claying, followed by an AIO using a foam pad and DA.

    Keep us updated.




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