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    advancement in sealants and wax's for water spotting

    advancement in sealants and wax's for water spotting


    With all the advancements in Paint sealants and wax's, it seem someone would come up with some kind of barrier to stop water spots from adhering and causing damage to paint.

    example:

    Some people may have to leave their vehicle at the airport for days in the heat of summer etc. Also does the chances of water spotting decrease in winter when the sun can't bake it into the paint?



    Again an example:

    Taking car to a touch less car wash to remove salt spray when the temp is freezing?


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    Re: advancement in sealants and wax's for water spotting

    I've not had rain water, whether from sitting at an airport for a week or two or a brief shower while at work ever damage the paint. I've not had issues with touchless washes in the winter causing a problem either. They may cause some dirty spots, but they wash off the next time I do a bucket wash on the car. The real enemy is sprinklers. The minerals in our city water around here will harden and cause all sorts of problems if left to sit on a vehicle.

    Most durable sealants or coatings should provide reasonable protection from rain. What LSP are you using?

    Since I've started using coatings this has become even less of a problem then when I used sealants. These days, a good hard rain works almost like a car wash by rinsing off the dust and the water sheets away with virtually no spotting at all except for a few spots on the roof and/or hood which easly wash away.
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    Re: advancement in sealants and wax's for water spotting

    I think you need an LSP that sheets water, i.e. is hydrophilic, where the water lays down and stick to the paint instead of beads. Nobody would buy this though because it would "look" like the protection wasn't working (because people judge protection by beading).

    I'm one of the very few that doesn't care much about extreme water beading. What I really want from my LSP is protection against bird bombs, bugs, water spots, and resistance to grime....

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    Re: advancement in sealants and wax's for water spotting

    Most ceramic toppers are quite good at prevent water spotting. And those few water spots I get sometimes wash off easy. See it most on the windows that they stay cleaner. And don't need to be cleaned by a glass cleaner. The Carpro Reset in the bucket clean them up spotless. It's the only LSP I have used this summer is a Si (monokisel) based spray on wipe off product. The Gyeon Wet Coat last long on the side windows for some reason. Doubled the longevity of 2 months on the paint that it lasted on the windows. The windshield it don't last long cause of the abrasion from the wipers.

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    Re: advancement in sealants and wax's for water spotting

    so where i live in the HOT desert, coatings dont do well when it comes to spotting, you can see the water is sitting on the coating and not the paint but it still spots and sometimes wont come off without some form or abrasion and thats even if just left for a day.

    some sealants on the other hand the waterspots wipe right off during the wash, mainly PNS and fk1000p so for me as much as coatings make overall cleaning easier, spots are a differint issue altogher. i actually have more satisfied clients with sealants then coatings and many of the coating people want the cars redone with a sealant once the coating wears off.

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    Re: advancement in sealants and wax's for water spotting

    Quote Originally Posted by midwestray View Post
    With all the advancements in Paint sealants
    and wax's, it seem someone would come up
    with some kind of barrier to stop water spots
    from adhering and causing damage to paint.
    Maybe the injection of some “old-school”
    Lanolin into (alleged) “advanced” Sealants,
    Waxes, (even car-wash shampoos?) would
    create a barrier against water-spotting.


    •Come to think of it:
    -I can’t recollect hearing any shepherd
    ever complain about their flock being
    affected with water-spotting after any
    type of watering event.



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    Re: advancement in sealants and wax's for water spotting

    So here you see spots on a coated part of the car and then a non coated part.





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    Re: advancement in sealants and wax's for water spotting

    Quote Originally Posted by FUNX650 View Post
    Maybe the injection of some “old-school”
    Lanolin into (alleged) “advanced” Sealants,
    Waxes, (even car-wash shampoos?) would
    create a barrier against water-spotting.


    •Come to think of it:
    -I can’t recollect hearing any shepherd
    ever complain about their flock being
    affected with water-spotting after any
    type of watering event.



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    Re: advancement in sealants and wax's for water spotting

    I remember Jason Rose saying Meguiar's having a difficult time with a coating for the North American market, because we love the crazy water beading, but water sheeting is more desirable for paint care.

    So far I've had great luck with Meguiar's M21, and Duragloss 111, which is why I really like those products.

    I've had more beading type products actually hold the water on the paint, rather than clump together and fall off.

    Zymol waxes are also great at shedding water. They bead like crazy, but don't like to stick to the paint. They bead up and fall off.

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    Re: advancement in sealants and wax's for water spotting

    Thanks for all the replies, lots of good info to ponder over!

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