Would you include water spot removal in a basic detail package? and how to?

[RMarkJr]

Well the title pretty much says it all.

I did a friends car today and I noticed that there were water spots/stains on the outside glass. Glass cleaner didnt touch it. Wasnt real sure what to remove them easily with .. steel wool pad and some cleaner? or just some type of cleaner with a regular microfiber pad?

so would that be something in a basic wash detail package you would worry about?

and what is an easy fast way to get those water spots off of glass?

Thanks again.

[Eldorado2k]

So you weren't able to get them out?
If I was in your shoes I would try Kaboom bathroom cleaner. [just make sure not to only let it touch the glass] As far as steel wool, always start off using it dry as using it with any sort of product/chemical/lube only makes it more aggressive. What grade steel wool do you prefer to use? I like 00 grade and reach for that 9 times out of 10.


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[RMarkJr]

So you weren't able to get them out?
If I was in your shoes I would try Kaboom bathroom cleaner. [just make sure not to only let it touch the glass] As far as steel wool, always start off using it dry as using it with any sort of product/chemical/lube only makes it more aggressive. What grade steel wool do you prefer to use? I like 00 grade and reach for that 9 times out of 10.


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I honestly didnt try real hard. But I was only using stoner invisible glass with a microfiber towel. It was my girlfriends friends car that I was doing for free inside and out.

I thought about the steel wool with something like CLR .. if I used steel wool it would be the 00 ..think I have seen some 0000 around here somewhere too.

I didnt know it would make it more aggressive with cleaner or liquid. I figured it would add some lubrication between the steel wool and the glass actually .. thats weird.

[Eldorado2k]

I didnt know it would make it more aggressive with cleaner or liquid. I figured it would add some lubrication between the steel wool and the glass actually .. thats weird.

Yea that's what everyone says... "make sure you use some lube or else"
Yea well I've never had a situation where steel wool scratches a surface, but once I use it with some kind of product as lube it suddenly doesn't scratch it... 00 steel wool doesn't scratch period as long as you're using it on the proper surface.

But I have had steel wool + "lube" scratch a surface where using the steel wool dry doesn't.. Here's an example: Kind of hard to get a picture of it, but you can see the scratches/haze left behind here after using the steel wool with Turtle Wax Chrome Polish or Meguiars New Hot Rims Metal Polish as lube [I can't remember which 1 but it was 1 of those 2]



See the scratches



But the same steel wool used dry cleaned up the rest of the surface as good as possible [not including the permanent defects]





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[RMarkJr]

Ya I can see the scratches in those pictures for sure.

but you did say you were using metal polishes. Doesnt metal polishes have abrasives in them? Maybe its the combination of the steel wool and the abrasives in the metal polishes that are causing the scratches?

Have you tried to use the steel wool with something like a regular liquid cleaner and it leave scratches?

[VR8]

Water spot removal can definitely require a lot of extra time. It is absolutely an add-on service for me. And just like paint surface correction, there are multiple levels of aggressiveness that can be used. #0000 steel wool is in my drawer. Also a bottle of Bar Keepers Friend and CarPro Ceriglass.

[TMQ]

Just buzz the windshield with whatever compound/polish you're using to correct the paint and be done.

Tom

[Trip]

^ same as above

[RMarkJr]

Water spot removal can definitely require a lot of extra time. It is absolutely an add-on service for me. And just like paint surface correction, there are multiple levels of aggressiveness that can be used. #0000 steel wool is in my drawer. Also a bottle of Bar Keepers Friend and CarPro Ceriglass.

ok, ya I was also thinking about that being an add on service due to the work and time it would take. I am going to have to pick up some 0000 steel wool and check out the carpro Ceriglass. Have you ever had any issue with the water spot cleaners etching glass? I seem to see that issue a lot with all that I have looked at.

[RMarkJr]

Just buzz the windshield with whatever compound/polish you're using to correct the paint and be done.

Tom

That seems to remove it really good and pretty quick? or do you need to go over it with several passes like you would with paint?