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DanS
02-21-2016, 02:23 PM
Cliffs Notes: Brand new car, front and rear bumper have less metallic flake than rest of car - repaint? or other factor?


Full story:

So I just got a brand new 2016 STI in WRB pearl. I ordered this car and waited 2 months, car arrived on a Friday at the dealer and I picked it up Monday morning 2/8 with 5 miles on it.

I didn't let the dealer do any prep other than remove some of the plastic so I could avoid the dealer installed swirl option. So the car was obviously a bit dirty when I picked it up, as to be expected after transport. I've since noticed about about 6 or 7 minor defects on the paint that I know I'll be able to remove, no big deal I pretty much expected some due to being handled by various people.

The weather here has not been great, so day of pick up I did a wash and quick wax with collinite 845, with the intention of doing a full detail at some point in the near future. It was a bit nicer this weekend so I was able to do a wash followed by a topping with Souveran. I had previously noticed what appeared to be a difference in the amount of metallic flake in the paint on the front bumper. Since we actually had some sun, I was able to really fully inspect the car and it appears that the front and rear bumper share the same difference in flake from the rest of the car.

Now, the reason for this post is I want to get everyone's opinion here as to why there's a difference. I know that cars can be repaired in port due to damage during transport, so I don't know if the bumpers have been repainted, or if it's a case of the front and rear bumper being painted separately from the rest of the car at the factory, or if it's just a case of the paint laying differently on the plastic of the bumper as opposed to the metal panels on the rest of the car (though the rockers and wing are plastic and look no different)? Subarus aren't known for excellent paint quality, I know this, but didn't expect what seems to be a mis-match on a brand new car.

Thoughts?

Front bumper / fender:

http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/ghost_friend/16%20STI/DSC_0237_zpscgii47ru.jpg (http://s920.photobucket.com/user/ghost_friend/media/16%20STI/DSC_0237_zpscgii47ru.jpg.html)

http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/ghost_friend/16%20STI/DSC_0238_zpsdlmypubw.jpg (http://s920.photobucket.com/user/ghost_friend/media/16%20STI/DSC_0238_zpsdlmypubw.jpg.html)

http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/ghost_friend/16%20STI/DSC_0220_zpsvnevzeds.jpg (http://s920.photobucket.com/user/ghost_friend/media/16%20STI/DSC_0220_zpsvnevzeds.jpg.html)

http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/ghost_friend/16%20STI/DSC_0221_zps6wcfc7tt.jpg (http://s920.photobucket.com/user/ghost_friend/media/16%20STI/DSC_0221_zps6wcfc7tt.jpg.html)

http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/ghost_friend/16%20STI/DSC_0222_zpsnkhjk3il.jpg (http://s920.photobucket.com/user/ghost_friend/media/16%20STI/DSC_0222_zpsnkhjk3il.jpg.html)

http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/ghost_friend/16%20STI/DSC_0226_zpscx5gxdzx.jpg (http://s920.photobucket.com/user/ghost_friend/media/16%20STI/DSC_0226_zpscx5gxdzx.jpg.html)

http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/ghost_friend/16%20STI/DSC_0225_zpsty8mugwp.jpg (http://s920.photobucket.com/user/ghost_friend/media/16%20STI/DSC_0225_zpsty8mugwp.jpg.html)


Quarter panel to rear bumper:

http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/ghost_friend/16%20STI/DSC_0239_zpsdkk0bs19.jpg (http://s920.photobucket.com/user/ghost_friend/media/16%20STI/DSC_0239_zpsdkk0bs19.jpg.html)

http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/ghost_friend/16%20STI/DSC_0240_zpspclvigdl.jpg (http://s920.photobucket.com/user/ghost_friend/media/16%20STI/DSC_0240_zpspclvigdl.jpg.html)

http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/ghost_friend/16%20STI/DSC_0229_zpsp7shasjl.jpg (http://s920.photobucket.com/user/ghost_friend/media/16%20STI/DSC_0229_zpsp7shasjl.jpg.html)

http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/ghost_friend/16%20STI/DSC_0230_zpsvry7giie.jpg (http://s920.photobucket.com/user/ghost_friend/media/16%20STI/DSC_0230_zpsvry7giie.jpg.html)

http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/ghost_friend/16%20STI/DSC_0233_zpsh7zgqutd.jpg (http://s920.photobucket.com/user/ghost_friend/media/16%20STI/DSC_0233_zpsh7zgqutd.jpg.html)

http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/ghost_friend/16%20STI/DSC_0231_zpsjm9fkpxk.jpg (http://s920.photobucket.com/user/ghost_friend/media/16%20STI/DSC_0231_zpsjm9fkpxk.jpg.html)

http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/ghost_friend/16%20STI/DSC_0235_zps7dl921qm.jpg (http://s920.photobucket.com/user/ghost_friend/media/16%20STI/DSC_0235_zps7dl921qm.jpg.html)

http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/ghost_friend/16%20STI/DSC_0244_zpspat3liro.jpg (http://s920.photobucket.com/user/ghost_friend/media/16%20STI/DSC_0244_zpspat3liro.jpg.html)

http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/ghost_friend/16%20STI/DSC_0242_zps4ikuvpmk.jpg (http://s920.photobucket.com/user/ghost_friend/media/16%20STI/DSC_0242_zps4ikuvpmk.jpg.html)

DanS
02-21-2016, 02:23 PM
Full car pictures for reference:
http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/ghost_friend/16%20STI/DSC_0208_zpsgrbdzv6t.jpg (http://s920.photobucket.com/user/ghost_friend/media/16%20STI/DSC_0208_zpsgrbdzv6t.jpg.html)
http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/ghost_friend/16%20STI/DSC_0206_zpsbzqretk1.jpg (http://s920.photobucket.com/user/ghost_friend/media/16%20STI/DSC_0206_zpsbzqretk1.jpg.html)
http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/ghost_friend/16%20STI/DSC_0207_zpsgtxfwn0w.jpg (http://s920.photobucket.com/user/ghost_friend/media/16%20STI/DSC_0207_zpsgtxfwn0w.jpg.html)
http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/ghost_friend/16%20STI/DSC_0212_zpsg9mvlpec.jpg (http://s920.photobucket.com/user/ghost_friend/media/16%20STI/DSC_0212_zpsg9mvlpec.jpg.html)
http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/ghost_friend/16%20STI/DSC_0213_zpse2zgnwvd.jpg (http://s920.photobucket.com/user/ghost_friend/media/16%20STI/DSC_0213_zpse2zgnwvd.jpg.html)
http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/ghost_friend/16%20STI/DSC_0217_zpsl0qpeo6m.jpg (http://s920.photobucket.com/user/ghost_friend/media/16%20STI/DSC_0217_zpsl0qpeo6m.jpg.html)
http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/ghost_friend/16%20STI/DSC_0216_zps9qbz7c5b.jpg (http://s920.photobucket.com/user/ghost_friend/media/16%20STI/DSC_0216_zps9qbz7c5b.jpg.html)
http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/ghost_friend/16%20STI/DSC_0214_zpsz0w3vg3r.jpg (http://s920.photobucket.com/user/ghost_friend/media/16%20STI/DSC_0214_zpsz0w3vg3r.jpg.html)
http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/ghost_friend/16%20STI/DSC_0218_zps2bvhudwn.jpg (http://s920.photobucket.com/user/ghost_friend/media/16%20STI/DSC_0218_zps2bvhudwn.jpg.html)
http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/ghost_friend/16%20STI/DSC_0209-2_zpsudortj2c.jpg (http://s920.photobucket.com/user/ghost_friend/media/16%20STI/DSC_0209-2_zpsudortj2c.jpg.html)
http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/ghost_friend/16%20STI/DSC_0210-2_zpsjiq5luny.jpg (http://s920.photobucket.com/user/ghost_friend/media/16%20STI/DSC_0210-2_zpsjiq5luny.jpg.html)

custmsprty
02-21-2016, 02:30 PM
Yeah you can definitely see the color difference on both the front and rear fascias. Take it back.

MikeC
02-21-2016, 02:33 PM
Always possibility of a repaint, but alot of painted plastic seems to have different color than metal components. At least in my opinion.

KBsToy
02-21-2016, 02:34 PM
My senior eyes can see the difference . I know the new challengers had same problem..

Yep, back and talk with dealer...suppose to be nice monday and tuesday in Da Burgh..

Ccrew
02-21-2016, 02:48 PM
Most bumpers these days are supplied to the assembly line by the external vendors already painted. What you see is the product of different paint number batches or possibly totally different paint manufacturer even

DanS
02-21-2016, 02:48 PM
Yeah you can definitely see the color difference on both the front and rear fascias. Take it back.


Always possibility of a repaint, but alot of painted plastic seems to have different color than metal components. At least in my opinion.


My senior eyes can see the difference . I know the new challengers had same problem..

Yep, back and talk with dealer...suppose to be nice monday and tuesday in Da Burgh..

Thanks for the super fast replies. Agreed, I think my next step is back to the dealer, but I was somewhat hoping that I was seeing things. Not too crazy about having a respray done. I know it can be difficult to match metallics, should I let them blend it or just request to do the bumpers?

MikeC - have you seen any differences in person with the plastics? This was my initial thought at first, but I guess regardless it's going to continue to bother me.

DanS
02-21-2016, 02:52 PM
Most bumpers these days are supplied to the assembly line by the external vendors already painted. What you see is the product of different paint number batches or possibly totally different paint manufacturer even

Interesting, I wasn't aware of that. That definitely would explain it.

I guess it still comes down to either living with it or making them respray. Not sure which is worse...

usmcpab
02-21-2016, 02:59 PM
I don't have that problem with my current Wrx, but mine is also an 03. However, my current Toyota and past toyotas always had a different shade compared to the rest of the car. Toyota always explained it as something along the lines that because it was different materials (plastic vs aluminium) it would always be a different shade.

7.3powerstroke
02-21-2016, 02:59 PM
Ccrew is right. I would not try to fix it. They would probably make it worse. Perfection is unrealistic...

TRDTACO
02-21-2016, 03:19 PM
"Toyota and past toyotas always had a different shade compared to the rest of the car. Toyota always explained it as something along the lines that because it was different materials (plastic vs aluminium) it would always be a different shade. "
I agree my plastic fender flairs on my truck look to be a lighter shade and less metallic than the rest of my truck, I wouldn't mess with it.

DanS
02-21-2016, 03:22 PM
I don't have that problem with my current Wrx, but mine is also an 03. However, my current Toyota and past toyotas always had a different shade compared to the rest of the car. Toyota always explained it as something along the lines that because it was different materials (plastic vs aluminium) it would always be a different shade.

Yeah, I had an 04 STi that didn't have this issue, but the point you raise about it always looking different on different materials is what initially gave me pause.


Ccrew is right. I would not try to fix it. They would probably make it worse. Perfection is unrealistic...

If that's how materials are now sourced, then yeah I'm not surprised by the mis-match. I share your sentiment on the possibility of making it worse, not only the match but also durability for a variety of reasons. This car is my DD so it's not going to stay perfect, I just didn't expect the stark difference. I'm also sure that 99% of people would never notice.

Smitty4x4
02-21-2016, 03:24 PM
Metallic and pearl are always difficult to match due to so many variables determining how the flake lays in the paint. I have seen cars driving down the road and it was obvious a respray was done even from far away. Quality body shops will try a few tests to get the spay technique correct before spraying the car. Very few will actually do this and even less likely a dealer body shop will. Blending may help but then you are painting on brand new body panels to do so. This may turn out to be an exercise in frustration only because they won't care as much as you do and when they don't see the big deal.... good luck.
I would like to see you get this resolved but it is the exact reason I do not purchase metallic or pearl cars even when I really love the look.

Lt1xL82
02-21-2016, 04:57 PM
Ccrew is right. I would not try to fix it. They would probably make it worse. Perfection is unrealistic...

:iagree:

SYMAWD
02-21-2016, 05:12 PM
Why take it back? What would it accomplish besides nothing but the possibility of a repaint? It is quite common on many new cars for bumpers not to match perfectly.