Ice scraper question

[AutoApollo]

Hey guys, I have a coat of wax on all the windows of the car. During the winter sometimes ice forms over the windows. Would scraping it off using an ice scraper remove that layer of wax?

[Joe@NextLevelDetail]

I would have to say no, some say clay bars take off wax, some say they dont.

I feel though the clay bar must at least diminish the wax protection.

But I doubt the ice scraper is going to hurt your wax.

Make sure your using synthetic wax, or a sealant on the windows tho, they last longer.

Also don't use windex or glass cleaner to clean a waxed glass surface use detail spray and spray wax

[jamesboyy]

Perfectly said NextlevelDtail and I agree with your post too

[its a syn]

Dawn or vinegar, will take off the wax. I think I would go with a sealant before wax on glass.

[AutoApollo]

Will the windshield washer fluid take away the wax coating as well?

[jamesboyy]

Yes regular windshield washer fluid will eat away your wax and even sealant for that matter

[SYMAWD]

Ice scraper will not remove it. Washer fluid may diminish it depending on what product you used.

[FUNX650]

If an ice-scraper can scrape-off ice...
I think it can scrape-off Wax. Even if it's
a "hard" wax. Even a "hard" Wax is going
to be softer than both ice and auto-glass.


Conversely:
If an ice-scraper's scraping-action won't remove
the film layer of Wax from auto-glass...why not
use the ice-scraper to remove ice formations
from the vehicle's Waxed paint?
Same principle, isn't it?


Anyway:
A film layer of Wax is only a few molecules thick.
How is an ice-scraper (or the user) going to be able
to differentiate between the ice and Wax molecules?



Bob

[AutoApollo]

If an ice-scraper can scrape-off ice...
I think it can scrape-off Wax. Even if it's
a "hard" wax. Even a "hard" Wax is going
to be softer than both ice and auto-glass.


Conversely:
If an ice-scraper's scraping-action won't remove
the film layer of Wax from auto-glass...why not
use the ice-scraper to remove ice formations
from the vehicle's Waxed paint?
Same principle, isn't it?


Anyway:
A film layer of Wax is only a few molecules thick.
How is an ice-scraper (or the user) going to be able
to differentiate between the ice and Wax molecules?



Bob

I would never use an ice scraper to remove ice from the paint. Glass is hard enough that it won't really scratch from the scraper but clear coat definitely will scratch. Maybe it does remove a little bit of wax from the windows. But wax on the windows sure makes it a hell of a lot easier to get that ice off.

[FUNX650]

I would never use an ice scraper to remove ice from the paint. Glass is hard enough that it won't really scratch from the scraper but clear coat definitely will scratch. Maybe it does remove a little bit of wax from the windows. But wax on the windows sure makes it a hell of a lot easier to get that ice off.
I wouldn't use it on the paint either:
That's wasn't my point.

Your OP's question was regarding ice-scrapers
removing Wax from auto-Glass.

Some folks said it wouldn't.
I gave my reasons why I think
it would.

So I then posed:
Why would it remove Wax from the paint,
if it won't remove Wax from auto-glass?
{Shouldn't there be a protective film of Wax
between the ice-scraper...and either the paint
or auto-glass?}

•So are you now acknowledging that an
ice-scraper can remove Wax while it's
also removing ice from auto-glass?



Bob

[FinishingTouchA]

I wouldn't use it on the paint either:
That's wasn't my point.

Your OP's question was regarding ice-scrapers
removing Wax from auto-Glass.

Some folks said it wouldn't.
I gave my reasons why I think
it would.

So I then posed:
Why would it remove Wax from the paint,
if it won't remove Wax from auto-glass?
{Shouldn't there be a protective film of Wax
between the ice-scraper...and either the paint
or auto-glass?}

•So are you now acknowledging that an
ice-scraper can remove Wax while it's
also removing ice from auto-glass?



Bob

I understood, Bob :xyxthumbs:

[SYMAWD]

After using an ice scraper on my glass, water behavior did not change at all. This leads me to believe that protection is still on the glass.

[04accord]

I tried a couple different waxes and sealants on my windshield and they never lasted long.. put on some rain x coating and its lasted even with wiper use and windshield wiper fluid.

[AutoApollo]

Have you tried Meguires NXT??? How will it hold up to Pinnacle?

Could be, I haven't washed the car since. It's been below freezing still so we'll see if it beads water

[wytstang]

After using an ice scraper on my glass, water behavior did not change at all. This leads me to believe that protection is still on the glass.
Same here